big4 accounting firms and minorities (finance, organization, Canada, job)
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But look at the schools that we recruit out of. Other big4 and regional firms recruit from VTech, UMD, William and Mary, GMU, Georgetown, AU, and maybe Penn State.
We do some recruiting out of there as well (mostly private) but why do we go to schools like TCU, BYU, Clemson and other schools near Georgia/Missouri/Tennessee? When we interview people from outside of the region, I was told by someone that they assess the "fit" (its a code word) of the firm and determine whether they get placed in large engagements or put on private company services. Basically, white people are assessed and if they have likelihood of being racist, they are placed on public companies while the less racists (or none) are likely to be put on private companies.
That's because top colleges (like Harvard and UPenn) are horrible recruiting grounds for Big 4 firms especially in audit. The Big 4 doesn't have a good reputation with a lot of top students. They are viewed by many students in those schools as low paying stressful jobs in a stagnant and boring field. Why would any firm send their recruiters to schools in which students display almost no interest in working in audit? Those schools you mentioned have a lot of students who are interested in accounting.
Speaking of which, I never found the technical skills (both in accounting and in computer programs) of Big 4 associates to be that impressive. This isn't to say that there aren't any talented Big 4 associates but I found their skills to be quite overrated.
That's because top colleges (like Harvard and UPenn) are horrible recruiting grounds for Big 4 firms especially in audit. The Big 4 doesn't have a good reputation with a lot of top students. They are viewed by many students in those schools as low paying stressful jobs in a stagnant and boring field. Why would any firm send their recruiters to schools in which students display almost no interest in working in audit? Those schools you mentioned have a lot of students who are interested in accounting.
Speaking of which, I never found the technical skills (both in accounting and in computer programs) of Big 4 associates to be that impressive. This isn't to say that there aren't any talented Big 4 associates but I found their skills to be quite overrated.
My firm is going after those students in those specific schools at a higher rate than other firms. That's my point.
There are plenty of big4 people that are average or worse. Perhaps you're not impressed since the skills don't matter, just the color of the skin. If this was based on audit skills, we would not only have more diversity but audits that actually caught things.
Originally Posted by TaxPhd In my academic career, I have had black students that have failed every exam, and as a result failed the class. Then they claim that the reason that they failed was due to me being a racist. Why would they do that? Perhaps playing the race card is easier than admitting to one's own shortcomings.
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Originally Posted by dorado0359
Lol....Are you saying that in your entire career, black students are the only students that have failed exams and your class? Please clarify, because that's exactly what your statement seems to imply.
It looks like reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, as I neither said nor implied any such thing.
When one looks at the context of my post (a thread discussing apparent institutionalized racism in Big4 firms, and that "racism" being the reason for a lack of advancement), my post makes perfect sense.
It looks like reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, as I neither said nor implied any such thing.
When one looks at the context of my post (a thread discussing apparent institutionalized racism in Big4 firms, and that "racism" being the reason for a lack of advancement), my post makes perfect sense.
I'm sorry that you aren't able to understand it.
If this is not racism, what is it? Coincidence that all managers are the same race as our clients?
What did I say that was bigoted? It's funny that you come to that conclusion as a result of me not agreeing with you.
I've been a republican for 20+ years. I know what you're trying to do. Turning my statement into a extreme saying I care only for race and not other qualities.
What's the saying, democrats run from the polls, republicans change them?
You're a bigot. You are ignoring my posts.
You just made me waste time on this post.
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