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Old 06-01-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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Forbes just cut its estimate of Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes’s net worth from $4.5 billion to zero

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Not long ago, Elizabeth Holmes was regarded as one of the US’s most successful female entrepreneurs, with a net worth of $4.5 billion, Forbes estimated.

Today Forbes cut that figure to zero.
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Old 06-01-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge
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And I thought I had it bad.
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Old 06-01-2016, 02:56 PM
 
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Rough. The premise of her company and the sexiness of disrupting yet another industry seemed promising, but if blood tests are inaccurate and they have no proof their systems work then the company is worthless. Interesting to see how they pick up the pieces, because of the significant hype and press received well before issues were reported.
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Old 06-02-2016, 02:44 PM
 
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That's quite a haircut. After I read the story I had to wonder what the Forbes formula is, and whether this might be a little bit of clickbait. But no, the methodology as discussed in the article seems fair for what is essentially guesswork.

As someone who lost a lot of money working and investing in a startup, I've got to point out how important it is to set aside a few bucks for the future. And also note that a massive failure is a good indicator of a subsequent successful venture.
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Old 06-02-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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That's quite a haircut. After I read the story I had to wonder what the Forbes formula is, and whether this might be a little bit of clickbait. But no, the methodology as discussed in the article seems fair for what is essentially guesswork.

As someone who lost a lot of money working and investing in a startup, I've got to point out how important it is to set aside a few bucks for the future. And also note that a massive failure is a good indicator of a subsequent successful venture.
What fair methodology? This?

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Forbes went back to its slide rule and, after talking to venture capitalists and industry experts, recalculated Theranos’ value at $900 million, based on its intellectual property and money it has already raised.
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Old 06-02-2016, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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What fair methodology? This?
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Forbes went back to its slide rule and, after talking to venture capitalists and industry experts, recalculated Theranos’ value at $900 million, based on its intellectual property and money it has already raised.
"Fair" with an eyebrow raised. The Forbes article author is making assumptions that aren't supported by anything more than hearsay and conjecture. Without real data from the company and from Holmes, I don't think it's possible to make a legitimate statement that her net worth is zero.
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Old 06-02-2016, 06:38 PM
 
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"Fair" with an eyebrow raised. The Forbes article author is making assumptions that aren't supported by anything more than hearsay and conjecture. Without real data from the company and from Holmes, I don't think it's possible to make a legitimate statement that her net worth is zero.
OK. I didn't catch the "eyebrow raised." There was NO methodology in that piece.
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Old 06-02-2016, 09:38 PM
 
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"Fair" with an eyebrow raised. The Forbes article author is making assumptions that aren't supported by anything more than hearsay and conjecture. Without real data from the company and from Holmes, I don't think it's possible to make a legitimate statement that her net worth is zero.
However, that's how they came up with her initial net worth. They used lots of assumptions, hearsay, conjectures, and speculation to initially say she was worth $4.5 billion and they are using those same methods to come up with a new figure.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:30 PM
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And also note that a massive failure is a good indicator of a subsequent successful venture.
That seems like quite the leap, especially for someone like Holmes.

She's basically nothing more than a fraud who thought she'd strike it rich by "disrupting" a highly regulated industry that does something that's actually quite difficult to do well.

The whole idea of being able to conduct a wide range of lab tests based on single drops of blood is ludicrous. Contamination from sweat, oils on skin, etc make it very difficult to get accurate results. Even some like measured BAC is not particularly easy - the wipe used to sterilize the area can cause the first tube to yield wildly inaccurate results.

They couldn't even get their equipment give reliable qualitative results, much less deliver anything quantitative.

The people running Theranos clearly didn't understand even the basics of blood testing (or the ones who did simply didn't care). Holmes herself never even managed to finish her undergraduate degree so it's not entirely surprising that she didn't know the first thing about how to do good lab testing.

Investors apparently didn't know anything about it either and thought that running a lab testing company was no different than starting a web site for people to waste time on.

Holmes and the investors are learning the hard way that simply having a pile of cash and dressing like you're from a sci fi movie are not a substitute for actually knowing what you're doing.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:31 PM
 
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Default It's refreshing to see female CEOs

Can lie, cheat, and steal with the best of the men. Business women are now in the same league as their male counterparts!
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