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Old 06-10-2017, 05:38 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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Because dishwashers make at least minimum wage and servers (at least in most states) get $2.13 per hour...
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Servers also make at least minimum wage - in every state.
In a few states. https://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm

Servers are rarely ever paid more than half the minimum wage rate by the employer.
Tips make up the difference. If the server has some competence then their tips will make up more than the difference.

The dishwasher however will always receive at least the minimum wage rate..
but will very rarely ever see any of the servers tip money.

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Old 06-10-2017, 08:37 PM
 
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In a few states. https://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm

Servers are rarely ever paid more than half the minimum wage rate by the employer.
Tips make up the difference. If the server has some competence then their tips will make up more than the difference.

The dishwasher however will always receive at least the minimum wage rate..
but will very rarely ever see any of the servers tip money.
If waitstaff don't meet the Federal min wage when their tips are included, the employer has to make up the difference. It's illegal for any employee to make less then Federal minimum wage regardless of state wage laws. Not sure if that is what your are implying, but it's common misinformation.

Example: server makes $2.50/hour and receives $3.00 in tips (for simplicity we are assuming 1 hour of work is done). That equals $5.50. But federal minimum wage is $7.25 (as of 2017), so the employer has to raise the wages from $2.50/hour to $4.25/hour. If the employer continues to pay the $2.50, that is illegal.
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Old 06-10-2017, 08:42 PM
 
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The server was out of line. I have been a server, and yes you get what you get and it evens out. Maybe I would ask was everything ok for you? But NO WAY would I mention the tip amount.

I resent some tipping. Like at Sonic. Why should they get tips? They get at least minimum wage. Last night the guy stood there waiting. What does he want for handing me tater tots and accepting my exact change for the cost of them?
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Old 06-10-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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If waitstaff don't meet the Federal min wage when their tips are included, the employer has to make up the difference. It's illegal for any employee to make less then Federal minimum wage regardless of state wage laws. Not sure if that is what your are implying, but it's common misinformation.

Example: server makes $2.50/hour and receives $3.00 in tips (for simplicity we are assuming 1 hour of work is done). That equals $5.50. But federal minimum wage is $7.25 (as of 2017), so the employer has to raise the wages from $2.50/hour to $4.25/hour. If the employer continues to pay the $2.50, that is illegal.
people on CD keep saying the same thing, they purposefully mislead themselves into thinking waiters earn $2.50/hr so they can throw a pity party
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:54 PM
 
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people on CD keep saying the same thing, they purposefully mislead themselves into thinking waiters earn $2.50/hr so they can throw a pity party
They do make that in a lot of states. Because their main income is expected to come from tips.
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:14 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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So if an Hvac employee comes and installs and Ac system and the bill is 10K, you tip the guy $2,000 or more?
If an employee of a plumber comes and puts in a sewer lateral for $14,000, you tip them $2,800?
Even when they are union members making $50/ hour?

I find that amazing!
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:21 PM
 
Location: here
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Actually the lines are quite blurry even to me outside of restaurants. Why do we not tip auto mechanics, who also perform a service to us? Why don't we tip doctors who save our lives?

And even in restaurant situation, why does waiters and waitresses get tips but the dishwashers don't?
In my state, a dishwasher would make at least minimum wage. A server makes about $2.30. When I found that out, I started tipping more.
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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people on CD keep saying the same thing, they purposefully mislead themselves into thinking waiters earn $2.50/hr so they can throw a pity party
I don't see how it's misleading or a pity party.
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Old 06-17-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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They do make that in a lot of states. Because their main income is expected to come from tips.
They make at least minimum wage in every state.
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Old 06-17-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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I don't see how it's misleading or a pity party.
See the post above. It is increadibly misleading at best, and horribly dishonest at worst to claim that they only make $2.50. They don't.
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