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08-07-2008, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
One would think so. But once they get here you start to hear "but we did it like <fill in the blank>". It's happening in Austin Texas.
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I heard that for years living in the southeast...
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08-07-2008, 10:21 AM
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silent observer
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I'm two steps ahead of the curve. As much as I love Texas, I'm not going to be able to call it home in 10 years. It will be Californicated all too soon and over run with illegals. The rural mountain west (Wyoming, Montana, parts of West Texas, New Mexico, Idaho) will be the only haven from the assault of consumerism, suburban expansion, radical taxation, "enlightened" individuals passing nanny state legislation to put us "backwards" people in place, erosion of private property rights, and the destruction of a once independent, self governing group of individuals.
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08-07-2008, 10:47 AM
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silent observer
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Originally Posted by GregW
Texas has been living off the rest of the country because of the oil and taxpayer funded aerospace businesses. Now that the oil has been pumped and aerospace is cutting back Texas may just not be such a business paradise. Welcome to a world of declining opportunities as the resources are depleted and other industries are shipped to China and India.
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I'm gunna have to object here. Dell, Texas Instruments, AT&T, Continental & Southwest (okay the airlines aren't doing great), Whole Foods (I know how you leftists love paying too much for food), Radio Shack, Clear Channel (I can't stand those guys), and a bunch of others outside the petrochemical industrial complex call Texas home. If anything, America has been nothing but dead weight for us. An independent republic of Texas would be much more prosperous than one going down with the sinking ship known as America.
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08-07-2008, 04:45 PM
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Texas High Plains - the last conservative refugia.
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Originally Posted by TexianPatriot
The rural mountain west (Wyoming, Montana, parts of West Texas, New Mexico, Idaho) will be the only haven from the assault of consumerism, suburban expansion, radical taxation, "enlightened" individuals passing nanny state legislation to put us "backwards" people in place, erosion of private property rights, and the destruction of a once independent, self governing group of individuals.
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I may not be around in ten years but I plan to spend whatever I have left on the Texas High Plains. Speaking as one who also still has one foot in New Mexico, that state is well on its way to being bought and sold by Californians, New Yorkers and New Jerseyans. 
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08-07-2008, 06:38 PM
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Cantankerous
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Location: Los Angeles Area
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Now that the oil has been pumped and aerospace is cutting back Texas may just not be such a business paradise.
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This makes no sense. Texas's business environment has to do with its state and local laws, not whether oil is being pumped. Furthermore, Texas does much more than oil and aerospace. Texas has a nice combination of a educated work force and a relatively good business environment. There are other states that have better business environments, but they are much smaller are lack the pool of educated works that Texas has. In the future that may well just change though.
Regardless, I have no idea how well I would fit in with Texans as far as politics go. I surely wouldn't vote for anti-business laws. But I would vote for many things that would be considered "liberal" on the social side of matters...(gay marriage etc etc).
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08-07-2008, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Humanoid
Yeah, I'm seriously thinking of relocating from California to Texas due to the tax situation in California. It doesn't hurt so much when you aren't making much, but as soon as your income goes up (especially from business activities) its a major burden.
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I am going to do it. Moving from Orange County, CA to Dallas, Texas. Texas is the number 1 state for fortune 500 companies and since I work in accounting that is a huge plus for me. Dallas has very low housing and rent. Rent is about half of what it is in ca and housing is about 1/5th the price. From what I've seen the wages are almost identical to CA and unemployment is lower.
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08-07-2008, 07:01 PM
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"I didn't take the "Blue" pill"
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Originally Posted by Humanoid
Regardless, I have no idea how well I would fit in with Texans as far as politics go. I surely wouldn't vote for anti-business laws. But I would vote for many things that would be considered "liberal" on the social side of matters...(gay marriage etc etc).
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In that case stick to the big cities (DFW, Austin, Houston) where many transplants have moved and are more liberal minded.
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08-07-2008, 07:57 PM
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Cantankerous
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In that case stick to the big cities (DFW, Austin, Houston) where many transplants have moved and are more liberal minded.
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I wasn't planning on moving to a rural area. But I'm not particularly liberal, rather libertarian. But if you support particular social freedoms in this country you are called a "liberal" for some odd reason (Usually those acts that violate, what is currently considered Christian doctrine).
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08-07-2008, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Humanoid
I wasn't planning on moving to a rural area. But I'm not particularly liberal, rather libertarian. But if you support particular social freedoms in this country you are called a "liberal" for some odd reason (Usually those acts that violate, what is currently considered Christian doctrine).
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Yes, the term "liberal" is so muddled these days. That's why I specifically said liberal minded. I guess that term can also mean different levels as well. Didn't mean to label you Humanoid.
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08-07-2008, 08:38 PM
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Location: Belmont, CA
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Despite being taxed pretty highly here, and having high costs for housing and food, many businesses that have to do with software or internet services still open here all the time. I think it has to do with a combination of things but Silicon Valley is still considered one of the best if not the best place for high tech.
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