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11-05-2008, 12:37 PM
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Somewhere - it's all in the attitude!
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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IBM outsourcing
Who can we protest to? This is SO wrong.
OK - Obama:
Get out with the tax hit to IBM
Stop them, how about it?
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11-05-2008, 12:38 PM
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Hangin' With King Friday
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: The Neighborhood of Make Believe
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Not much is safe from this. If you can do a job from a computer, it can be outsourced. From what I saw, Obama's tax credit isn't enough to discourage businesses from outsourcing. It's something like 3-6K when they could probably save 15-20K. Doesn't make sense. What's the answer?
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11-05-2008, 12:43 PM
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Less Lawyers, More Engineers!
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Redwood City, California
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I have been in Engineering and Software for 10+ years, worked in Silicon Valley, Singapore, Mexico, Spain...etc.
1 transition that has happened in the last 10 years is; Americans are no longer the highest qualified candidates for the price.
We as Americans should study Math and Engineering more to be better than these countries, become more flexible to working overseas and longer hours. Become the better candidate.
That's all I have to say, the US government and corporations are no longer looking out for you.
Every man for themselves.
Finance Jobs? I am afraid to say we will only lose more of them.
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11-05-2008, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member
Status:
"I didn't take the "Blue" pill"
(set 1 day ago)
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Great State of Texas
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Vietnam is now the cheapest place and the next hot IT offshore country..cheaper than either China or India but not as big a population.
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11-05-2008, 12:50 PM
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Senior Member
Status:
"I didn't take the "Blue" pill"
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Great State of Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mach50
I have been in Engineering and Software for 10+ years, worked in Silicon Valley, Singapore, Mexico, Spain...etc.
1 transition that has happened in the last 10 years is; Americans are no longer the highest qualified candidates for the price.
We as Americans should study Math and Engineering more to be better than these countries, become more flexible to working overseas and longer hours. Become the better candidate.
That's all I have to say, the US government and corporations are no longer looking out for you.
Every man for themselves.
Finance Jobs? I am afraid to say we will only lose more of them.
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You can study all the math and engineering but you still cannot compete with $25K per year jobs with no benefits. That is the bigger problem then education. |
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11-05-2008, 12:56 PM
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Less Lawyers, More Engineers!
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Redwood City, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyTexan
You can study all the math and engineering but you still cannot compete with $25K per year jobs with no benefits. That is the bigger problem then education.
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I agree with that, but one thing we do as Americans is innovate.
If jobs are going overseas we should invent a way to do it better, that's all I got man.
Otherwise learn Hindi and move to India...
Every man for themselves. |
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11-05-2008, 01:02 PM
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Less Lawyers, More Engineers!
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Redwood City, California
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For example instead of being the finance guy, maybe write a book on finance that the indians use to do your old job...lol.
Sorry to say but many IT workers have done this, adapt and innovate.
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11-05-2008, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member
Status:
"I didn't take the "Blue" pill"
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Great State of Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mach50
For example instead of being the finance guy, maybe write a book on finance that the indians use to do your old job...lol.
Sorry to say but many IT workers have done this, adapt and innovate.
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Or just retrain and get out of the industry. |
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11-05-2008, 01:26 PM
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Less Lawyers, More Engineers!
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Redwood City, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyTexan
Or just retrain and get out of the industry.
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Yup, I know many who have and are doing quite well. |
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11-05-2008, 02:28 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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What industry are you talking about?? IT or White Collar work altogether?
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