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Old 10-17-2014, 10:15 PM
 
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Hi all,
I just watched tv show called Border Security and there are 2 scene where I don't understand:

1. A mom and his son flying from Hungary and being interogated by custom officer at Toronto airport. The officer asking if they bring any food with them, and they showed the officer about their sandwiches for their meal during their journey. The officer was asking if there's any meat in the sandwich and they say yes. The officer said that they could be fined up to $800 by not declaring the sandwich in their custom declaration form. Do we need to declare our lunch sandwich for international flight?

2. An american woman travelling from California and being interogated by border officer. This woman told the officer that she is meeting the guy she met on online dating website. The officer asked the woman question about her life, work, etc. After questioning her, the officer asking if she has her cellphone with her and if so, she need to hand it over to the officer. The officer then checking her cellphone. Is checking our cellphone part of a routine border security procedure?
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Old 10-17-2014, 10:26 PM
 
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Hi all,
I just watched tv show called Border Security and there are 2 scene where I don't understand:

1. A mom and his son flying from Hungary and being interogated by custom officer at Toronto airport. The officer asking if they bring any food with them, and they showed the officer about their sandwiches for their meal during their journey. The officer was asking if there's any meat in the sandwich and they say yes. The officer said that they could be fined up to $800 by not declaring the sandwich in their custom declaration form. Do we need to declare our lunch sandwich for international flight?

2. An american woman travelling from California and being interogated by border officer. This woman told the officer that she is meeting the guy she met on online dating website. The officer asked the woman question about her life, work, etc. After questioning her, the officer asking if she has her cellphone with her and if so, she need to hand it over to the officer. The officer then checking her cellphone. Is checking our cellphone part of a routine border security procedure?
So the sandwich left Hungary and was being brought into Canada, so yes, they would need to declare their lunch. Seems to me they should have eaten it on the plane if it was lunch!

Officials may check electronics to see if they work (ie: are not hiding materials inside an empty shell).
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Old 10-17-2014, 10:51 PM
 
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What I meant when I say "checking cellphone" is the officer checking the content of the cellphone, the text messages in this case. I understand if they need to check whether there's hiding material in it but do they the right to check the content of the cellphone ??
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:30 AM
 
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2. An american woman travelling from California and being interogated by border officer. This woman told the officer that she is meeting the guy she met on online dating website. The officer asked the woman question about her life, work, etc. After questioning her, the officer asking if she has her cellphone with her and if so, she need to hand it over to the officer. The officer then checking her cellphone. Is checking our cellphone part of a routine border security procedure?
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What I meant when I say "checking cellphone" is the officer checking the content of the cellphone, the text messages in this case. I understand if they need to check whether there's hiding material in it but do they the right to check the content of the cellphone ??
Yes in the above instance if the officer is suspicious that her story is not true. He would be checking it to make sure the text messages and phone numbers on there match up with the story she told him about the guy she met online and that she actually has contact with the guy. The officer can ask her for the name, telephone number and home address of the person she said she's meeting and then call that person to ask him questions to confirm that he is who she said he is and what the online guy knows about her life and work and that his story matches her story.

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Old 10-20-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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If you have meat, it could potentially carry disease that may infect domestic livestock, so it would be disposed of.

As for the cell phone thing, yes they have every right to check your cellphone and in this case were likely trying to determine if it was a legitimate story, or she was coming up to "work" or dance, or in the worst case, human trafficking.
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Old 10-22-2014, 07:56 PM
 
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The reason I'm asking because I don't think US border checking your cellphone. I could be wrong on this or maybe they're not doing it at the airport, at least not that I see it, but they do it at the land border??
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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The reason I'm asking because I don't think US border checking your cellphone. I could be wrong on this or maybe they're not doing it at the airport, at least not that I see it, but they do it at the land border??
Oh yeah, they do, at land entry and airports. If you present as someone they suspect is not just visiting but perhaps going to enter, then disappear to work illegally or someone arriving with a load of digital kiddie porn or.....

They'll take you and your electronics into an ante room and fire up your computer, your cel-phone, your I-pad, and any other piece of electronics you might be carrying. Missing your flight won't even be of concern to them.

These are different times now.
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Old 10-23-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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The reason I'm asking because I don't think US border checking your cellphone. I could be wrong on this or maybe they're not doing it at the airport, at least not that I see it, but they do it at the land border??
Echoing what BruSan is saying, they absolutely have the ability and the right to do it. If you notice the next time you go through customs at YYC on the American side, notice the door at the back. There's a whole suite of offices back there that they'll take their sweet time picking your stuff apart. On the Canadian side, they're doubly motivated, because if they turn you around, you're already home. It's not like they're preventing you from being repatriated, or causing the airline a problem.
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