07-05-2010, 07:43 PM
Location: Bay Area
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californio sur
Some strategists fear Jerry Brown's frugal campaign strategy may be too little, too late - latimes.com
Attached is an article pointing out that Jerry Brown seems to be campaigning in slow motion with hardly any staff members [only 6 compared to 66 staffers working for Meg Whitman]. Admittedly Brown has a fraction of the resources Whitman has [she has spent already $91 million of her own money]. But as the article points out, the Brown campaign may be "too little, too late." Brown responds by pointing out that he has a 6 point lead over Whitman in polls and has hardly spent a cent.
Personally, I would like to at least know what Jerry Brown's plan is for California and think he is being lazy by not informing the voters of his vision for the state. Oh well!
Funny thing is...I listen to KGO radio every morning and even before he ever mentioned running for Governor, he'd be accessible every week to talk to the morning hosts. He doesn't shy away from discussing the topic of the day. I'm pretty sure that Whitman has only had ONE radio appearance...I've never heard the woman speak (besides her funny press conference where her handlers told everyone to leave and not ask her any questions).
I think he's proving his points by NOT avoiding the media (in this case radio which is FREE) and NOT spending more than anyone else in history telling everyone how fiscally responsible he is.
I guess I just see things differently. Anyone can have some "vision" for California. You have a vision, I have a vision...so what. It doesn't really mean squat. It's all just BS. Jobs... sure..Education...sure, Lower taxes...blah blah...it's all just words and Whitman has been saying the same as ALL politicians say.
But it's highly doubtful to me that she actually knows how
MOD CUT actually works in government. Unfortunately now that I'm a little older and wiser, I have figured out that it IS about politics (same as getting a job in a bad economy, getting a promotion, getting a lot of things in life) and just 'cause you have good intentions it's not realistic to believe that some 'vision' is gonna play out. That's something Whitman cannot buy.
I'm pretty sure he's been very open to talking/debating Whitman when the time draws nearer (I think he's asked for 10 debates).
Not hearing from him yet is a good thing--like not seeing Christmas junk in the stores in September.
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07-05-2010, 08:00 PM
Location: Pasadena
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Interesting reply, clongirl And you are correct about debates. Brown has asked Whitman to have many debates but she has only agreed to one debate in October [a month before the election]. Every time I see how much grief Arnold goes through each day I wonder if Whitman could deal with so many problems [a cut throat Democratic legislature\ powerful and demanding unions\ angry Republicans who hate any governor who is in any way reasonable\ university students willing to riot over anything\ wild fires and earthquakes\ extreme media scrutiny\ budget crises non-stop\ radical environmentalists\ etc]. Could Whitman handle such pressure?
07-05-2010, 08:08 PM
Location: SW MO
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Interesting reply, clongirl And you are correct about debates. Brown has asked Whitman to have many debates but she has only agreed to one debate in October [a month before the election]. Every time I see how much grief Arnold goes through each day I wonder if Whitman could deal with so many problems [a cut throat Democratic legislature\ powerful and demanding unions\ angry Republicans who hate any governor who is in any way reasonable\ university students willing to riot over anything\ wild fires and earthquakes\ extreme media scrutiny\ budget crises non-stop\ radical environmentalists\ etc]. Could Whitman handle such pressure?
Except for hubris and a misplaced sense of power, I have to wonder why anyone in their right mind would want that position.
07-05-2010, 08:16 PM
Location: Bay Area
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Except for hubris and a misplaced sense of power, I have to wonder why anyone in their right mind would want that position.
Well..I certainly wouldn't!
And in this horrible state of affairs right now, I wouldn't even TRY to pump up how great it would be if you voted for me! But I'm more of a realist...and too honest to begin with...terrible qualities for a job in politics.
07-05-2010, 08:24 PM
Location: Pasadena
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Except for hubris and a misplaced sense of power, I have to wonder why anyone in their right mind would want that position.
And then spend a fortune of your own money. By the end of the election Whitman is expected to spend $150 million! Why?
07-05-2010, 08:30 PM
Location: South Bay
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lets remember too that jerry has a day job for the state already. the last thing he needs is to be considered a lame duck in his quest for the gubernatorial seat.
07-06-2010, 04:35 AM
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Most voters don't pay much attention to the hot air politicians blow until a few weeks before voting.
More than Viagra, but is it more than all male enhansement (spelling) drugs put together?
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07-06-2010, 12:19 PM
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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What an impatient society we have become. Just because that idiot Meg Whitman has spent an enormous amount of money trying to buy her way in, doesn't mean that Brown should do likewise.
+1
Agree on all counts 100%
Meg Whitman has been perfectly described by the Huffington Post in the title of an article about her:
Mrs Harsh meets Harsh Reality.
LOL
If what's she's done so far is 'campaigning', then I'll pass. If all she can do is spend millions to attack her opponents while clinging fiercely to ideals I don't like(like NO AMNESTY under any circumstance), then to hell with her trying to enter politics after 28 years of caring so little that she didnt excercise her basic right as a citizen-to freaking vote?
She is calculated, brutish and a bully.
Basically she seems like Arnold 2(except she apparently has bigger balls than Arnold) so sorry but this is one sequel Im definitely don't want to see.
07-06-2010, 12:56 PM
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+1
He, ha, He...
Other than the voting issue, your description makes her sounds like the perfect balance to the democrats running everything else.
07-06-2010, 02:11 PM
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+1Basically she seems like Arnold 2(except she apparently has bigger balls than Arnold) so sorry but this is one sequel Im definitely don't want to see.
I'm not sure your characterization of Whitman is entirely accurate especially when comparing her to Schwarzenegger. Keep in mind that Arnold has championed some of the strictest environment laws\ global warming legislation. He approved stem-cell research when the federal government did nothing. Arnold fought for universal health care even though the state could not afford it as well as comprehensive before and after school programs that included free breakfast and afternoon snacks\ tutoring\ sports. Schwarzenegger agreed with the state court and urged the electorate to approve gay marriage. I honestly believe that Arnold has been a good governor but happened to be in office during extremely dire times.
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Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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