Predictions of California in the next 20 years (bankrupt, schools)

[Oerdin]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

New York has a very large and entrenched middle class. They are experiencing some middle class flight, but nothing like CA.

The main issue with middle class flight isn't taxes but the high cost of housing.

[Pretzelogik]

Become the northern most state of Mexico?

[Marv101]

'White flight' has been in high gear from California for well over three decades, and with a forthcoming shortage of children bound to be devastating to Sacramento's finances as pension costs continue to explode, it's going to get real ugly.

Toss in the fact that the projected $6,000,000,000 in new revenue from the passage of Prop. 30 is a pipe dream; they'll be lucky to get 25% of that.

Then what?

More tax hikes, that's what!

[zdg]

Two points:

Originally Posted by Marv101

Toss in the fact that the projected $6,000,000,000 in new revenue from the passage of Prop. 30 is a pipe dream; they'll be lucky to get 25% of that.

Then what? More tax hikes, that's what!

1) Yes, of course more tax hikes, or were you hoping the government would start raising revenues with a bake sale? Can you name a single state that doesn't use taxes as their main source of revenue?

2) You revived a three year old thread to post essentially the same rant as you just did in a second, current thread? Really?

[Des-Lab]

High taxes, severe traffic congestion, overcrowded schools, high unemployment, and high cost of living is just the small price we have to pay for being the envy of the observable universe with our nice weather, tasty fish tacos, Mongolian art museums, and interracial dating.

[oldtrader]

State government predicts that White Flight and Black Flight from the state will continue, and Hispanic are on the way to become near half of California residents in the next few years.

http://www.dof.ca.gov/research/demog..._2010-2060.pdf

Average education level will decline in the future, with minority population with high drop out rate replacing white population with high graduation rates, and more apt to have a college education.

California is falling behind in educating students for the jobs of the future (STEM) at a rapid rate and this will lead to problems in the future and will hinder searching better paid jobs in the future as more and more they leave the state.

CESaME - Cal Poly > About CESaME - STEM Education Crisis

California faces Critical Shortage of Math and Science Teachers

California has reached the down slope leading to future problems. The Baby Boomers that built the modern California are retiring, leaving the work force, and a large portion of them will do what they have done for the last few years, which is to retire someplace else. Starting in 2020 it is predicted the next housing bust will happen in California as these baby boomers start putting their homes on the market and a surplus of homes will drive prices down again.

[sjnative]

Originally Posted by West of Encino

What do you think California will look like or turn out in the next 20 years, like by 2030?

I'm not sure if this topic had been brought up before. But what are your predictions on California?

Pretty bad but not apocalyptic.

More of the middle class will have fled or will have been absorbed into the lower class. This has already happened in Los Angeles will continue to happen in the SFBA as the cost of housing will likely only continue to escalate.

The remaining middle class will be childless and mostly young as is largely the case now in SF and the Silicon Valley. When young middle class families decide to start families, they do what they do now which is the flee to the flyover states.

Hispanics will be the majority and will flex their muscles at the voting booths. Look for more Hispanic politicians with that group eventually dominating politics. They will realize more or their Azatlan/MECHa fantasy with each passing year.

Blacks and whites will continue to leave the state as they become increasingly uncomfortable as they become increasingly smaller racial minority groups within their communities.

Social services will continue to suffer as the lion's share of the tax base funding the retiree's enormous pensions. The public school system will likely continue to suffer because of this.

There will be a greater reliance on tax revenue from tourism. Look for a heavy proliferation of toll roads and other ways to squeeze funds out of tourists.

Corporations won't flee as a whole but will become increasingly shrewd about their CA operating expenses. Look for them to increasingly carefully minimize their presence in CA by exporting yet more operations/departments/personnel out of state and likely out of the USA.

Expect there to be less high tech in CA as that industry continues to relocate to locations such as the Silicon Prairie, etc.

[nullgeo]

Whoa! Back to back Oracle posts! We have seen the future according to OT and SJ! And it involves CHANGE!

Whoddathunkit?

Oh my oh my. California is gonna become a wasteland because it can't adapt to change. What will we do? A desolate cultural desert of poverty. Once the mighty, most productive state in the union, once one of the most productive economies in the entire world! Reduced to a social refuse heap! Even the weather will leave. And the ports will disappear as the harbors are reclaimed by the sea and converted back to rocky, forbidding coastline. The fertile valleys will turn to salt.

Where is my pistol with one-bullet?

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Where is my pistol with one-bullet?

One of those awful brown people's welfare kids stole it.

[Podo944]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Whoa! Back to back Oracle posts! We have seen the future according to OT and SJ! And it involves CHANGE!

Whoddathunkit?

Oh my oh my. California is gonna become a wasteland because it can't adapt to change. What will we do? A desolate cultural desert of poverty. Once the mighty, most productive state in the union, once one of the most productive economies in the entire world! Reduced to a social refuse heap! Even the weather will leave. And the ports will disappear as the harbors are reclaimed by the sea and converted back to rocky, forbidding coastline. The fertile valleys will turn to salt.

Where is my pistol with one-bullet?

Ha ha.. good one!
BTW, even Hollywood will leave! Oh wait...

Hollywood May Not Be