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Unread 10-06-2010, 06:33 AM
 
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There was a time when those foreign companies didn't know how to build HSR's either, but they did. Despite my often cynical attitude toward some aspects in this country sometimes, I believe Americans are more than capable of building a HSR. For god sakes we put a man on the moon in the 1960's we sure as hell can build a high speed rail line I hope
We don't need high-speed rail, per se, Our existing diesel-electric locomotives can cruise easily at 100 mph and have been able to since the 20's.

Sure, 200 mph is nice, but we have pretty-good tech, right now.
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Unread 10-06-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: West Coast Wanderer
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We don't need high-speed rail, per se, Our existing diesel-electric locomotives can cruise easily at 100 mph and have been able to since the 20's.

Sure, 200 mph is nice, but we have pretty-good tech, right now.
If they can cruise at 100mph they certainly aren't doing so. Part of the reason is the infrastructure of the tracks and where they're built. Have you ever taken Amtrak up the state before? It takes almost 3 hours for it to get from San Diego to Los Angeles. Then, to get to Oakland or Emeryville, it takes another 9 hours. However, between LA and Bakersfield, you have to take a bus through the Tahachapi mts. and over the Grape Vine because Amtrak does not have trackage rights in that area as there is only one track for both directions of freight trains for Union Pacific and BNSF. Once in the valley, Amtrak goes along the outskirts of cities where not only are there a lot of stations, but it's not safe for them to go too fast. Same thing for the coastal line.

A high speed rail system would be built in a place where it's safer and more feasible to go directly between LA and SF and at a faster speed with newer technology.
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Unread 10-06-2010, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Cali
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We don't need high-speed rail, per se, Our existing diesel-electric locomotives can cruise easily at 100 mph and have been able to since the 20's.

Sure, 200 mph is nice, but we have pretty-good tech, right now.
There are some diesel-electric locomotives that can go as fast as 140 mph! We should just upgrade the existing tracks we have now and just scrap this high speed rail thing. I'd rather see that federal money go towards desalination plants and more water aquaducts.
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Unread 10-06-2010, 11:01 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Blah , Diesel trains are so 20th Century , time to go Electric. If Amtrak did some Grade Separation and Electrified its California network you probably reduce travel times by an hr.
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Unread 10-06-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: USA
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I'm waiting for the SF Chronicle headline: "Arnold Rides Death Train".
Anything like "riding the crazy train?"
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