California Complaints......

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Caliguy2007

...I live in California and I don't want to flee, put an effort in making improvements, even though my efforts may only be a drop in the bucket...

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Burro Schmidt

[Caliguy2007]

I love California,even though others may hate it

Originally Posted by Westward

I agree totally with this statement. You can talk about reasons to leave all day long, but spend a few years away, and no matter what reason you left, you will find reasons why you wish you were back, especially if you have the money to move around to a better spot than the one you left.

[Caliguy2007]

Those were interesting stories...Thanks for sharing it

Originally Posted by Charles

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Burro Schmidt

[bigtallredhead]

Originally Posted by mysticaltyger

In general, I think California tends to generate strong reactions because the advantages of living here are great....but so are the disadvantages. So it kinds of creates a love / hate relationship.

The good things: great weather, diverse people, beautiful scenery

The bad things: lousy schools, tons of poor people from the 3rd world, ridiculously high housing costs, lousy state government


In general, if you are really loaded, this is a great place live. If you're upper middle class, it still might be worth it. If you're middle class but don't have or want kids, it still might be worth it. If you're middle income and have or want kids....forget it...it's just too stressful.

Good post! I am lower income, and it is tough to live here. I do plane to lieve the east S.F. bay area in the future, but I will stay in California, thank you. There are still some very nice places inland in the state. The great food, beautiful scenery/outdoor recreation opportunities, and the weather will keep me in the state.

My main complaints: Cost of housing is outrageous! Too polarized. Far too materialistic and status obsessed in much of the state (but NOT all of it, thankfully.) Not enough sense of local community for those who not affluent. Can be tough to find work if not well educated and not an immigrant (No matter what race/ethnicity one is). Crime is not bad in most areas, actualy. It depends on the area of course, some communities/neighborhoods are dangerous. I just avoid them, and am generally very cautious. I think that should be true anywhere. I prefer some ethnic diversity, but the ethnic stratification of most of coastal California I can very well do without.

Sacramento is quite diverse and much better in this regard, much less segregated or economically polarized along ethnic/racial lines.

-In fact, I truly like Sacramento as a whole (though not all of it of coarse) and will likely move there in the next few years. The Sacramento valley and rural northern California in general is still very nice, and not nearly as expensive as a lot of the state. Marysville and Chico are also lovely and peaceful, though a bit too conservative and homogeneous for my personal taste. California is a big state, and far from all of it meats any of the negative popular stereotypes.

[Cali-girl]

There was this bash on another thread (regarding Californians and our propensity to wear large lensed designer sunglasses):

"You are kidding yourself if you don't think these 'fake wealth/in debt' people exist though. There is very little actual wealth in OC and Scottsdale. Real wealth can be found in Beverly Hills, Marin County and D.C. to Boston. I think the rest of these people are fakes. Especially the ones driving around on 22" wheeled Hummers...phony phony. At the end of the pay cycle these people are staring at line of credit which gets them to the next cycle. I have met plenty of these "people" (use of word people here is questionable).

Did you know a persons phoniness is in direct proportion to the size of their sunglasses? So when you see that doosh in the BMW drop top with a license plate that says "Dale B8". Check if hey have the blinging gucci nucci glasses on with the 4" lenses...yup you have just spotted a person with 0 wealth and ++debt...probably got a BK filed on the ole credit report too.
"The sunglasses phenom is no theory, it is law."

To that member poster:

I wear big sunglasses because I have had skin cancer 3X. I'm not sure if you know this, but melanoma can grow on the eye lens, so I need to protect my eyes.

I wear designer because those are the frames that fit my (wide, high) cheek-boned face. I also wear prescription Raybans - which I hope are OK with you.

I am an investor who loans money to the State of California with a FICO of 801. No bankruptcies, no foreclosures, no late payments, no U/Ds, no criminal history, no civil lawsuit history.

~Cali-girl