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Old 10-08-2010, 10:58 AM
 
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I'm not denying these numbers but a couple things. I would cite your source otherwise it's meaningless numbers. I am willing to bet that all of those bloated figures are the years these people retired. I would guess most chiefs make around $200,000 on a yearly basis. These figures most likely included a years pay, sick time pay off, vacation pay off and other pay offs for the final year.

It's funny almost. Everyone here is complaining about cops making $100,000 (most street cops, chiefs are politicians not cops...my opinion). What about the realtors that rip you off everytime you buy/sell a house? I guess some of you guys might be one? I don't think it's right they make about 3% of my sale. That should be negotiated. I remember when realtors I knew made easily over $250,000/ yr. I can think of many other examples in this regard and yes our society is backwards / upside-down.

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Here is a list of what members of a few police departments took home last year on the backs of the tax payers.


Top 10 2009 San Francisco Police
$516,118 Charles Keohane Deputy Chief III
$425,558 Morris Tabak Deputy Chief III
$345,698 Gregory Suhr Captain III
$345,005 Sylivia Harper Captain III
$304,767 Antonio Parra Captain III
$290,400 Kevin Cashman Deputy Chief III
$287,819 James Lynch Assistant Chief
$284,993 Stephen Brown Commander III
$266,669 David Tacchini Captain III
$262,237 Shinn Deputy Chief III
$332,926 Average
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Top 10 2009 OAKLAND Police
$242,800 Howard Jordan Agency Director, Police Services
$235,630 Huy T Nguyen Police Officer (PERS)
$233,586 Brian L Tran Police Officer (PERS)
$231,217 Michael Morse Police Officer (PERS)
$227,801 Eric W Karsseboom Police Officer (PERS)
$223,057 Trevelyon M Jones Sergeant of Police
$219,280 David A Kozicki Deputy Chief of Police
$218,604 Lawrence Green Lieutenant of Police
$215,930 David W Faeth Sergeant of Police
$214,196 Robert S Cooper Police Officer
$226,210 Average

Top 10 2009 SAN JOSE POLICE
$471,118 Andrew Galea Deputy Chief Of Police
$388,122 Manual Martinez Police Captain
$346,535 Stephen Windisch Police Sergeant
$336,505 Pete Ramirez Police Sergeant
$305,842 Brian Kneis Police Sergeant
$303,693 James Melo Police Lieutenant
$272,889 Scott Marsh Police Sergeant
$263,756 Gary Drake Police Sergeant
$260,903 Robert Davis Chief Of Police U
$255,007 Bruce Wiley Police Sergeant
$320,437 Average
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Top 10 2009 VALLEJO Police
$312,775 Larry Rogers Police Sergeant
$202,421 David C Jackson Police Captain
$201,277 Robert W Nichelini Police Chief
$198,654 Joel Salinas Police Lieutenant
$194,694 James A O'Connell Police Lieutenant
$185,613 Lori A Lee Police Captain
$183,575 Kenneth J Weaver Police Lieutenant
$183,065 Eric Mortenson Police Lieutenant
$175,003 Herman E Robinson Police Sergeant
$166,740 Stanley H Eng Police Corporal
$200,382 Average
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Old 10-08-2010, 11:40 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA aka Frisco
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I'm not denying these numbers but a couple things. I would cite your source otherwise it's meaningless numbers. I am willing to bet that all of those bloated figures are the years these people retired. I would guess most chiefs make around $200,000 on a yearly basis. These figures most likely included a years pay, sick time pay off, vacation pay off and other pay offs for the final year.

It's funny almost. Everyone here is complaining about cops making $100,000 (most street cops, chiefs are politicians not cops...my opinion). What about the realtors that rip you off everytime you buy/sell a house? I guess some of you guys might be one? I don't think it's right they make about 3% of my sale. That should be negotiated. I remember when realtors I knew made easily over $250,000/ yr. I can think of many other examples in this regard and yes our society is backwards / upside-down.
Exactly, this includes overtime etc. It's not easy to be the chief of police and they deserve the money if they do a good job. So I'm not sure why people are so angry about this. They worked their way up to that position. It's not like they are greedy CEO's making millions ripping us all off.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Take it to the other extreme. ADM Mike Mullen is Chairman of the Joint Cheifs. He is a 4 star admiral and leads a force of over 1MM men and women.

His base pay? An O10 with >26 years of service make $195k a year in base salary, He might collect housing allowances of another $30-35k a year tops, or he's in base housing. Pension is 66% of highest annual pay - base pay only - after 30 years. He gets NO overtime.

How can you justify a police chief - let alone a police captain - making more then this man?
Thats quite a salary for the admiral. I doubt it if hes worth it but hes a top govt employee so congress thinks he is.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:19 PM
 
Location: California
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$100K isn't enough for me to be a cop in Oakland. You can say what you want but when people don't want the job because they have to worry about getting killed every day they go to work the ONLY solution is money. And lot's of it.

Although if anyone has a better idea just put it out there and let everyone see.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA / San Rafael, CA
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Although if anyone has a better idea just put it out there and let everyone see.
In all seriousness, if you're paying Oakland cops $200,000+ a year, it might be cheaper to just have the National Guard patrol the streets.
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA aka Frisco
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$100K isn't enough for me to be a cop in Oakland. You can say what you want but when people don't want the job because they have to worry about getting killed every day they go to work the ONLY solution is money. And lot's of it.

Although if anyone has a better idea just put it out there and let everyone see.
Cops were lined up around the block when they were hiring. Starting pay was 80K plus a 20K signing bonus. It's rare a cop gets in any serious danger like what happened with the 4 officers killed. New Orleans PD only make like 20-30K and I feel NO is way more gritty and dangerous than Oakland despite what the stats say. If you've been to NO it's a different feel. I'd rather make 100K in Oakland as a cop than than 100K in New Orleans or Detroit etc
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA / San Rafael, CA
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New Orleans and Oakland are actually very close when it comes to crime rate:
Survey: Oakland has fifth-highest crime rate in country

The fact that New Orleans cops make 50k less than their Oakland counterparts simply means they are making less to face pretty much the same dangers.
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Old 10-08-2010, 03:08 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA aka Frisco
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New Orleans and Oakland are actually very close when it comes to crime rate:
Survey: Oakland has fifth-highest crime rate in country

The fact that New Orleans cops make 50k less than their Oakland counterparts simply means they are making less to face pretty much the same dangers.
Again what is it with you and your Oakland obsession. New Orleans is FAR more corrupt than Oakland ever could be, despite your obsession with Oakland crime stats the fact is Oakland is not like New Orleans. The poverty and crime in NO is on another level.
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Old 10-08-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: California
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Cops were lined up around the block when they were hiring. Starting pay was 80K plus a 20K signing bonus. It's rare a cop gets in any serious danger like what happened with the 4 officers killed. New Orleans PD only make like 20-30K and I feel NO is way more gritty and dangerous than Oakland despite what the stats say. If you've been to NO it's a different feel. I'd rather make 100K in Oakland as a cop than than 100K in New Orleans or Detroit etc
Ok, that's 100K. 80K to start with raises get's to 100K annually pretty quick. The question is, how low can you drop that salary before people stop lining up aound the block or applying altogether? You think someone would be a cop in Oakland, with the COL here in The Bay, for $20-30K? I don't. You couldn't rent a decent apartment on that salary.

What's the COL in NO? Could someone live on 20K?
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Old 10-08-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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For the whiners: You go do the job. You wouldn't and/or couldn't.
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