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Old 11-17-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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The only redeeming values of the GOP are their pro-business stance, willingness to lower taxes, and tough stance against illegal immigration. Other than these 3, I could care less and vote Democrat 100%.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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The basic difference between many Democrats and many Republicans is why they are there.
Liberal is based on hope
Conservatism is based on fear.

Now, this is not something I made up, it is a well recognized psychological difference. Conservatives, and Conservative movements all have two things in common, a strong leader to identify with, and a bogeyman, it could be commies, or socialists, or enviros or Mexicans, muslims, in history it could be the Jews, or the French, or the British, etc. It doesn't really matter, whatever is selected as the bogeyman serves the same function. The strong leader rallies the conservatives against the bogeyman and gains control of them in that fashion.

Liberals on the other hand do not require strong leaders, (which drives conservatives crazy, sure that liberals require strong leaders they cycle through names, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Soros, etc, completely oblivious that liberal do not operate hierarchically as conservatives do)

Liberals tend toward global thinking, now, don't confuse that with globalism, not at all the same thing. Liberals do not create hierarchies in their thinking, they create coequality, that too differs from Conservatives.

Whether one is a liberal or a conservative depends on how their brain is wired, global and hope, or hierarchical and fear.
You are somewhat delusional man. If you cannot plainly see that both parties operate from a stance of generating fear in their political bases in order to get the desired turnout then you have some serious blinders on. How do you think Jerry Brown got Democrats interested in this election? Fear fear fear. lol It worked.

Your ideals are rather weak and completely ignore reality. Is Religion not your boogey man? Come on. The only difference between the two parties is how they generate fear into the souls of their automatons.

It's no wonder this country is so screwed up...people refuse to think. Or deal with reality and truth...everything has to be a convoluted idea or perception.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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You make it sound that the California voters want a "dictatorship" rather than chose morons just because they are dissatisfied with "normal" legislators and leaders. I've used the analogy of asking for the hospital janitor to perform brain surgery because the patient is angry with the doctor! The Republican party in California continually opts for narrow-minded ideology that goes over great in states like Texas and Oklahoma but is rightly rejected by intelligent people. Do you know that the voters in Oklahoma in their extraordinary wisdom past an amendment that "Sharia Law" is banned in their state? With less than 1% Islamic population the hysteric Republicans of Oklahoma are afraid that Muslims are about to take over their judicial system. And the examples of GOP idiocy in Texas are just too many to list.

A reasonable person has to pause and really consider if they would ever support a Republican candidate since just identifying as a Republican suggests that there is something seriously lacking in the smarts department.
Am I moving to Texas...ah no? California is far more screwed up anyway, I am circumsized, does that mean I could face criminal punishment after San Francisco bans it? OH!

Anyway, Colorado has a good strong two-party system...I'd prefer a 3 or 4 party system, but an equally powerful two-party system will do.

A reasonable person has to pause and really consider if the would ever support a Democrat candidate since just identifying as a Democrat suggest that there is something seriously lacking the smarts department.

It runs both ways...only a mindless idiot would think either party is worth a grain of salt in the smarts department. A true patriot understands the dangers posed to personal liberty by the current political power structure and works hard to fight to bring back the Constitution - a document that has been trampled upon for well over a hundred years now. Not that it matters, true patriots are a dying breed and this all will end in tyranny; history has been repeated a thousand times over and yet people are unable to learn from their own stupidity.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Earth
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The only redeeming values of the GOP are their pro-business stance, willingness to lower taxes, and tough stance against illegal immigration. Other than these 3, I could care less and vote Democrat 100%.
The California GOP boasts about the first 2 on their website. It ignores the third as that's too controversial of an issue and not really a left/right issue anyways. GOP interest groups like the Chamber of Commerce don't favor a tough stance against illegal immigration.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Valencia, CA
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The basic difference between many Democrats and many Republicans is why they are there.
Liberal is based on hope
Conservatism is based on fear.
That's just hog wash. Conservatism is based upon fairness, I worked for mine and you work for yours, I'll pay my fair share of taxes and you pay your fair share, and quit taking my hard earned money and giving it away to people who won't work. Quit giving away gold plated retirement pensions to public unionized workers while all I get is a stinking 401k.

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I am circumsized...
TMI! TMI! And get a spell checker.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Hills & Hollers of SW MO
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The California GOP boasts about the first 2 on their website. It ignores the third as that's too controversial of an issue and not really a left/right issue anyways. GOP interest groups like the Chamber of Commerce don't favor a tough stance against illegal immigration.
But they damn sure should, as should all other "real" Americans!
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Earth
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But they damn sure should, as should all other "real" Americans!
You may remember that Pete Wilson told the Boalt Hall law professors who drew up Prop 187 to drop the section of that initiative which would have conferred criminal penalties on the employers of illegals in return for his endorsement of the initiative. Agribusiness in CA in particular wouldn't be pleased with measures against employers of illegals.
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Hills & Hollers of SW MO
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You may remember that Pete Wilson told the Boalt Hall law professors who drew up Prop 187 to drop the section of that initiative which would have conferred criminal penalties on the employers of illegals in return for his endorsement of the initiative. Agribusiness in CA in particular wouldn't be pleased with measures against employers of illegals.
Surprisingly enough, to me at least, I don't remember that!

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The only redeeming values of the GOP are their pro-business stance, willingness to lower taxes, and tough stance against illegal immigration. Other than these 3, I could care less and vote Democrat 100%.
How too bad. It's sad when voters don't think for themselves across the board but allow a party to do so for them!
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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TMI! TMI! And get a spell checker.
I guess my sarcasm didn't go over well. Circumcision is not hard to spell, but the hilarity of circumsized was too much to pass up.
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: West Coast Wanderer
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But they damn sure should, as should all other "real" Americans!
There you go again
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