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Old 11-23-2010, 02:42 PM
 
Location: West Coast Wanderer
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I wonder how much more burden it would be if Ca. was out of the picture? What if Ca. weren't around anymore to be a net giver?
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:13 PM
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Location: Mountain Ranch, CA The heart of Calaveras County
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1978.

Yeah I know it passed in 78, I was referring to the doom and gloom after it's passage. I debated with using the earlier year though.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:54 PM
 
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How does CA stop bailing out redneck states? That would go a long way to fixing CA's budget woes.
Other state's senators and representatives do a better job getting their states money than do ours.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: West Coast Wanderer
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Other state's senators and representatives do a better job getting their states money than do ours.
Not sure if that's all of it but certainly is part of it. I think a lot of it has to do with where the other states are. California for example receive federal aid once every 5 years of so, often longer. Other states get tornadoes, hurricanes and all sorts of other disasters which often require federal money so a lot of that money is sucked up that way. Ca. is one state which has to help assist with over a dozen others. Each year there are about half a dozen or so (guessing here) federal disaster areas whether it be floods, tornadoes, hurricanes etc. Ca. by contrast doesn't need this sort of assistance as often.

I'm speculating here btw.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:45 PM
 
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Would a proposition on the ballot requiring that CA gets back a minimum percentage of the revenues it forks over to the feds be a reasonable solution?
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:04 PM
 
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Would a proposition on the ballot requiring that CA gets back a minimum percentage of the revenues it forks over to the feds be a reasonable solution?
No.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:04 PM
 
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I knew it all along that the media and many others around the country were hyping up how horrible everything is in California

I live in California and let me tell ya,things aren't as bad as what is portrayed on tv,radio,etc....Yeah we got problems here like everywhere else,but not to the extent where were all 37 Million of us are trying to figure out a way of how to escape California for greener and better pastures to the North and East.

California is doing ok in my opinion despite our problems,and no matter what, the Golden State will keep on shining through

California is a very precious state and I will remain here through it's ups,downs and turnarounds
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:57 PM
 
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It is true. California has been bailing out the other states for years.

This map shows the blue states being net federal taxpayers, while the states in red receive more money than it gives.



Despite its economics woes, California is a net federal taxpayer.
How is this relevant to the issue of the State of California's fiscal health? Unless you plan on seceding from the union or taking the progressive taxation provisions out of US tax code this isn't really going to change. How much money CA taxpayers send to DC is irrelevant when it comes to discussing the state budget - those dollars are not going to the state now and won't in the future.

BTW - any map that shows FL as a net payer of federal taxes has to be off. Given the amount of Socail Security and Medicare dollars that go to all the retirees in that state - and the little in taxes that senior population pays - I highly doubt there is less total federal dollars going into FL then are coming out.
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: SW MO Aux Arcs
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It is true. California has been bailing out the other states for years.

Despite its economics woes, California is a net federal taxpayer.
Perhaps the other states are simply smarter!
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:57 PM
 
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[OC Investor2;16767066]How is this relevant to the issue of the State of California's fiscal health? Unless you plan on seceding from the union or taking the progressive taxation provisions out of US tax code this isn't really going to change. How much money CA taxpayers send to DC is irrelevant when it comes to discussing the state budget - those dollars are not going to the state now and won't in the future. :smack
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It does not. Nor should California secede from the union. It boils down to the management of the taxpayer's money. It is the duty of every legal resident to pay federal taxes as enacted under the US Constitution, which gives the Federal Government the power to levy taxes.

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BTW - any map that shows FL as a net payer of federal taxes has to be off. Given the amount of Socail Security and Medicare dollars that go to all the retirees in that state - and the little in taxes that senior population pays - I highly doubt there is less total federal dollars going into FL then are coming out.

Florida has consistently been a net federal taxpayer between 1981 and 2005 (I don't have the most recent data available): The Tax Foundation - Federal Taxes Paid vs. Federal Spending Received by State, 1981-2005

In comparison, California has been a solid net federal taxpayer since 1994. In that same year, they received more federal spending than what they paid to Washington D.C. -- but not by much.
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