12-14-2010, 12:00 PM
Location: Eureka CA
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I think Goldiemom may be referring to the excellent movie "Waiting for Superman" which places the blame squarely on the tenure system,and by extension, the teachers' unions. It features Bill Gates (who is NOT a right-winger)prominently.
12-19-2010, 08:40 PM
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I was raised in Eureka. I raised my son there for 9 years . Some of my family live there still. I would say that it is a good town to raise children, teenagers tend to get bored ~ but again if you're very family focused and doing a lot of outdoor activities it will be a positive experience for your children. I sent my son to the same catholic school that I attended which is smaller and quality education. It is very wet, cold but sometimes the fall (Sept - Nov) are exceptional. Air is clean. We did not have issues with drug users. All the best for you and yours in your big decision.
12-21-2010, 11:05 AM
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take a look at city-data
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jkuras
I have a nice job offer in Eureka with the USFS but I also have two young children (ages 2 & 5). I have many concerns about whether I should relocate from Southern California and take this job. (I am originally from Michigan so I am used to dreary and colder weather).
I have read the archived threads about the Eureka area (McKinleyville, Fortuna, Aracata) and I am concerned about moving my family there.
1) I am okay with the pot culture as long as it doesn't interfere with daily life. To each there own.
2) I am concerned about the otherwise depressed economy and is it a nice place to raise a family?
3) I have often believed that it is not WHERE you raise your children but HOW you raise them. That said, I don't want to regret my decision since we are leaving a nice home in the So-Cal burbs with good schools and low crime rates (in our neck of the palms).
4) I am also concerned about medical care and schools.
Your thoughts and feedback are greatly appreciated!
If you go to the city-data page for eureka, it should answer your question. Scroll down to the FBI Crime Index part of the page. See? Its DOWN from the 600's, into the high 500's. The average American city/town is about 320. Crime here is about the same as South Central L.A....
House prices are HIGH, compared to a lot of other places that are nicer. If you have to be in the North end of CA, look at Fortuna. If you are just still looking, look at Medford, OR. NEW, (less that five years old) 3Bd 2Ba homes are going for $75,000. In Eureka, for similar homes, try $225,000, and in Arcata, $275,000.
High crime, high home prices (why???) and four or five hours to drive to a large city. Single adults, or couples can do well in Eureka/Arcata, if they are well off. Jobs are scarce, and low-paying. But to raise children, mmeeehhh. Try
Medford, OR , or other child-friendly areas.
Now: that is just an opinion, and how I would approach looking for a place to raise a family. If you love smoking pot, and being dressed up means your new Woolrich plaid (or affliction T-Shirt), and cleanest jeans, then Eureka would be like heaven. It has some beautiful scenery, lays right on the water, and is a great place to hide out. Fresh Crab are usually in the stores, and gas prices are the highest in the country. (today, avg is $3.45. Costco is about $3.25).
Just an OPINION!
12-21-2010, 11:13 AM
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no issues? with drugs?
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JJEli
We did not have issues with drug users. All the best for you and yours in your big decision.
I don't know where you are looking, but Lima's, Redwood and Cloneys (local Drugstores) have all been victims of armed robbery in the last 6 months or so. NOT for cash, but DRUGS! I think it was one of them that got robbed twice, by a guy with a gun, who walked PAST the cash register, straight to the Rx counter, and demanded all of the Oxycontin. And other opiates (?).
It seems like about at least of a third of all of the pot busts turn up weapons and meth. Pot use in high-school age youth has, for the first time in a decade, gone on the rise.
And the cuts that Swarchinator made are paring down the police presence.
I wanna live where you live, if drugs are not an issue there.
12-22-2010, 04:54 PM
Location: Northern Colorado
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Yeah, the economy up there isn't that good but it would be a better place to raise a small family since it's a small town. But if you are in a good spot now, then I would not risk moving up there.
12-22-2010, 08:02 PM
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just to reiterate
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the city
Yeah, the economy up there isn't that good but it would be a better place to raise a small family since it's a small town. But if you are in a good spot now, then I would not risk moving up there.
I do not mean to disparage the north coast, but, given the choice, knowing what I know after spending over 10 years in and about the area, that there are a lot of places that come to mind that I would offer as better places to raise children.
Everyone knows that the MAJORITY of the knowledge and awareness that kids will absorb MUST come primarily from the parents and from the home environment. But a close second source is the support system that is available in the area. The area in question has lost tons of resource (in great part to the status of the economy, I'm sure) to funding teachers, anti-drug advocacy organizations, and things/places for kids to go and hang out. From firsthand knowledge, I can say that the #1 reason people in this area use to 'blame' for their participation in alcohol/drug consuming activities is
boredom . When groups of kids feel '
bored ' it can lend itself to the introduction of alcohol/drug use as a fix for the boredom. And that happens in the Arcata/Eureka/Redwood area as well as any other location.
I think that the high FBI crime index is fueled by the method of reporting the crime data that is used to form those stats. But, the numbers are real. So, I think that my first concern would be in looking for an area with the lowest consecutive running crime index. You find a town that consistently has less that 200 for an index, you can feel pretty safe that your odds are better than in a town that runs in the high 500's and into the 600's for long periods.
Good luck. Let us know if you actually go to visit the area you are thinking about.
12-23-2010, 02:27 PM
Location: Northern Colorado
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I do not mean to disparage the north coast, but, given the choice, knowing what I know after spending over 10 years in and about the area, that there are a lot of places that come to mind that I would offer as better places to raise children.
Everyone knows that the MAJORITY of the knowledge and awareness that kids will absorb MUST come primarily from the parents and from the home environment. But a close second source is the support system that is available in the area. The area in question has lost tons of resource (in great part to the status of the economy, I'm sure) to funding teachers, anti-drug advocacy organizations, and things/places for kids to go and hang out. From firsthand knowledge, I can say that the #1 reason people in this area use to 'blame' for their participation in alcohol/drug consuming activities is boredom . When groups of kids feel 'bored ' it can lend itself to the introduction of alcohol/drug use as a fix for the boredom. And that happens in the Arcata/Eureka/Redwood area as well as any other location.
I think that the high FBI crime index is fueled by the method of reporting the crime data that is used to form those stats. But, the numbers are real. So, I think that my first concern would be in looking for an area with the lowest consecutive running crime index. You find a town that consistently has less that 200 for an index, you can feel pretty safe that your odds are better than in a town that runs in the high 500's and into the 600's for long periods.
Good luck. Let us know if you actually go to visit the area you are thinking about.
There's probably more drugs there becasue of low income people trying to escape reality. Eureka isn't the best city to find upper middle class families, college educated workers, and safe neighborhoods but it beats being around gangs at school.
Another word of advice is that it's never easy to move when your kids have already settled into a place. If your kids are fine, live in a safe neighborhood, and have a good job now why jeopardize that for an okay town. The community I live in, not even a city or town, was boring to grow up in and kids never drove to where all the excitement was in high school until their senior year. It was boring here, but it was safe growing up here and there are alot of parents that are educated.
Now, that I am in college I can still see people calling our area boring. There's a college town nearby so alot of teens go there for nightlife and some complain that we don't have enough bars or not one decent night club. But most of my friends have been able to have fun without being in that scene.
01-16-2011, 05:02 PM
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Recently moved to Humboldt. You are right to be concerned about the economy. It is visibly depressed and depressing, particularly in Eureka. Climate is drastically different, as is the culture. Drug issue is not in your face -- no worries there. Plus, it helps feed the local economy. If you are an outdoors-guy, this could be an nice place for you. If you need a metropolitan, you are in for culture shock. Best recommendation. Spend a few days here during the week to see if you like it.
08-12-2011, 02:30 PM
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Decision?
So here it is 7 months later... did you decide to make the move?
08-12-2011, 08:23 PM
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Maybe if you can live in Arcata, Ferndale, etc. would be fine, but candidly Eureka's a pretty run-down, blue collar town... and not in a good way, where I'd be more worried about meth types there than pot.
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People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)