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Old 12-15-2010, 09:50 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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Jerry will wait till the next fiscal year to make more budget cuts to education.
I found this quotation interesting:

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"There is no more meat on this bone to carve," David Sanchez, president of the California Teachers Association, told Brown. "The only thing left is amputation."
I disagree because I see districts with administrators still giving themselves raises and living with very handsome perks. I'd like to see this deadwood cut and save actual teaching positions.

As for the rest of the budget, we'll know what it's going to look like in a few weeks.

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"Please sit down when you read the stories on the budget on Jan. 10," he concluded. "If you're in the car, fasten your seat belt."

Read more: Jerry Brown: 'Fasten your seat belt' for school spending cuts - Sacramento Politics - California Politics | Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2010/12/15/3258163/jerry-brown-fasten-your-seat-belt.html#ixzz18FNevhMo - broken link)

 
Old 12-15-2010, 10:32 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Fasten our seatbelt, because moonbeam is taking us into outer space with his wacky nonsense
 
Old 12-15-2010, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Fasten our seatbelt, because moonbeam is taking us into outer space with his wacky nonsense
Dude....Do you have anything of substance to add or just meaningless sound bites? Your schtick is getting real old. The campaign is over.
 
Old 12-15-2010, 10:48 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Dude....Do you have anything of substance to add or just meaningless sound bites? Your schtick is getting real old. The campaign is over.
So because the campaign is over, I am supposed to approve of moonbeam?
 
Old 12-15-2010, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Good post Snort. I thought Bill Lockyer (State Treasuer) had some good quotes like this one in response to the educators at the meeting, "You can't keep ducking this. All I keep hearing is good ideas about how to spend more money we don't have."

It's going to get ugly. This chart (see below) shows the state budget year by year since 1966. It is NOT adjusted for population or inflation so it is somewhat misleading. Nevertheless, if you look at the 2009-10 budget it is for $119 billion. As recently as 2004, the state's budget was approx. $98 billion. So I'd agree we should CUT first....and learn to live within our means.
http://www.sen.ca.gov/budget/budgethistory.pdf (broken link)

With such high unemployment, we simply don't have the money (i.e., personal income taxes have evaporated). The budget (and state revenues) ballooned in the late '90's due to the high tech boom. We don't have that luxury now.
 
Old 12-15-2010, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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So because the campaign is over, I am supposed to approve of moonbeam?
No, of course not. Make a critique that isn't a bumper sticker slogan. That's all.
 
Old 12-15-2010, 11:29 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Moonbeam cant cut what the unions wont let im cut.And since he is beholden to unions I would not count on any crucial cuts anytime soon.
 
Old 12-15-2010, 11:34 PM
 
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Moonbeam cant cut what the unions wont let im cut.And since he is beholden to unions I would not count on any crucial cuts anytime soon.
Even if he did decide to bite the hand that feeds him, they still own the legislature. Brown would have about as much luck making cuts as Arnold did.
 
Old 12-15-2010, 11:36 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Exactly. I remember reading that arnold veto'd more nonsense than any other governor in california history. Its amazing the non sense he saw come to his desk.

Brown by contrast has had one of the lowest veto ratios out of any governor.

I'm not holding my breath on big cuts. I am expecting lots of hot air and symbolism with no substance. But hey, thats all it takes to woo the voters of california.
 
Old 12-16-2010, 08:44 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Fasten our seatbelt, because moonbeam is taking us into outer space with his wacky nonsense
The rightwing whackos say stuff like this, easier than thinking I guess. Mike Royko came up with the term Governor Moonbeam to disparage Brown's support for whacky stuff like solar and wind power, high fuel mileage cars, things which made perfect sense then and now. But was tough for a midwesterner to understand. Mike later said he regretted the words after seeing how the whackos distorted his meaning.

Saying that Brown is beholden to Unions any more than any politician defies logic.
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