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Old 01-05-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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Speaking of laws----The California Supreme Court handed down a decision yesterday that should scare the hell out of you. They ruled that if you are arrested for any reason, and you have in your possession a cell phone, laptop or any other communication or info storage device, the police are free to get into that device and retrieve the info inside of it! WITHOUT A WARRANT! Think about the implications of this ruling! The court also ruled that this ruling is not specific to the case in front of the court, but is now the rule. Meaning that for instance,if you are walking out of the post office and have the private mail you just got out of your PO box in your back pocket and you are arrested for some reason, the police can open and read that mail just because you have it on you. Do you hear that sucking noise? Thats your 4th Amendment going straight down the drain!
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Anyone been subject to any of the new laws that were just enacted this week? Are we crazy or just stupid? Can we regulate from cradle to grave and furthermore legislate morality into those with no morals? Honestly, where does it end sheeples? What are some of your favorite new laws just passed, or were you even aware? Gosh....this state is just "golden".
Nothing personal...but...yes.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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... That's what the legislature does, that's its sole purpose: to pass laws. In every state...
One might think so... but one might be wrong.

I think the sole purpose of the legislature today is to perpetuate itself through the cycle of (1) extracting legal bribes from unions, PACs and special interest groups for the purpose of (2) passing -- or defeating the passage -- of laws that unions, PACs and special interest groups favor or dislike.

At the Federal level, nothing could be clearer than the R&D tax credit. Virtually no one is opposed to the R&D tax credit.

The R&D tax credit has been a temporary law since the 1970s. Every year or two, law expires. 6 months before expiration of the R&D , legislators hold meetings with R&D heavy companies, who in turn bribe, uh, make campaign contributions, and the R&D tax credit is extended for another 12 to 18 months or so.

Imagine what would happen if Congress were to make the R&D tax credit permanent: no more bribes, uh, campaign contributions from R&D heavy companies.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Well, the problem is that we have a dysfunctional minority party in Sacramento. We have a budget crisis that can't be solved with spending cuts...
Someone's been watching too much Rachel Maddow.

We had plenty of state government in 2000 -- even in 2005. Just roll back state government to that level.

Oh - that might anger the state employee unions, which own the dysfunctional majority party in Sacramento.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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... The California Supreme Court ... ruled that if you are arrested for any reason, and you have in your possession a cell phone, laptop or any other communication or info storage device, the police are free to get into that device and retrieve the info inside of it! WITHOUT A WARRANT! ...
Liberals. How can anyone actually support liberals?
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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Liberals. How can anyone actually support liberals?
I think this ruling has NOTHING to do with one being a liberal or conservative. It has to do with the Constitutional rights of American citizens. The rights against unwarranted searches and seizures and the right to not incriminate yourself.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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We have professional politicos in office that can only find the time to take money, gifts, and sexual favors from individuals trying to get laws to pass. If we went back to the pre Jerry Brown days, you know where he screwed us the first time, we would find that the state had a part time legislature that didn't spend all their waking time trying to come up with crazy laws. LOL
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Old 01-05-2011, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Earth
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We have professional politicos in office that can only find the time to take money, gifts, and sexual favors from individuals trying to get laws to pass. If we went back to the pre Jerry Brown days, you know where he screwed us the first time, we would find that the state had a part time legislature that didn't spend all their waking time trying to come up with crazy laws. LOL
The part time legislature was made full time under Jerry's dad, not under Jerry.
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Old 01-05-2011, 07:33 PM
 
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I think this ruling has NOTHING to do with one being a liberal or conservative. It has to do with the Constitutional rights of American citizens. The rights against unwarranted searches and seizures and the right to not incriminate yourself.
Well said! I think folks of all political persuasions should be alarmed by this ruling.
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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2 more thoughts on my OP....first, God forbid I get nailed on one of these dandies...can I plead stupid for not knowing all the state laws (how many are we up to now)????? Heck, who has time to keep up and also contribute taxes to all the spenders in Sac! Secondly, who would be easier to bribe...the 'lifers" down under the dome or a part time legisture who actually had to work in the real world and then report to the dome on a part time basis...think, think, think!! Oh yah, my break is over back to supporting the takers!!!
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