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Old 02-21-2011, 09:15 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Agreed. They should move them to San Jose. Although this may hurt the Warriors. I'd assume there may be some difficulty using the HP pavillion though, since NHL and NBA season overlap significantly.
I don't think it would be a problem really. Staples Center can handle two NBA teams and an NHL team fine it seems. Lots of arenas host both NBA and NHL games.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:17 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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It seems when we in SoCal read or hear speculation about which team could conceivably move to here, the Raiders aren't mentioned as often as Jacksonville, San Diego, Buffalo, or even Minnesota. I'll admit I don't follow it that closely. I just wonder if the Oakland franchise is less healthy or more reluctant to move than those teams above.
I really don't get why either really, probably because of Al Davis. Raiders always have trouble selling out, the coliseum is a dump, and LA already has a large, established Raider fan base and still has Raiders team stores.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I don't think it would be a problem really. Staples Center can handle two NBA teams and an NHL team fine it seems. Lots of arenas host both NBA and NHL games.

At one point the mammoth Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum served as the home of the Rams, UCLA, USC, and the Dodgers simultaneously.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:27 PM
 
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If the Kings move to Anaheim, it is going to force the Clippers to sink or swim. David Stern just cares about multiple franchises in LA. So be it if the Staples Center loses a tenant and the Clippers have to go to a city that just built a new arena. It would just be a travesty if Donald Sterling were the one to get to move to Vegas. But the contemporary NBA is all about ultra modern brand-new arenas with all the bells and whistles.

But we are starting to see another NBA with LeBron and Bosh going to Miami and Melo going to the Knicks. Young multimillionaires don't want to live and play in cowtowns. The NBA can ramrod Sacramento, Oklahoma City, Utah, and Memphis down everyone's throats all they want to. They can draft but no free agents will sign there. When was the last time one of those franchises or Toronto, New Orleans, Charlotte, Denver, Minnesota, or Cleveland has signed a big named free agent?

NBA players want to be in Southern California, South Florida, and Orlando (cities with palm trees and beautiful women), Texas (where the land is so cheap you automatically become JR Ewing if you play pro sports), or in the Northeast (where sports is larger than life and fans from different cities battle for you like clans in "Braveheart").
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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If the Kings move to Anaheim, it is going to force the Clippers to sink or swim. David Stern just cares about multiple franchises in LA. So be it if the Staples Center loses a tenant and the Clippers have to go to a city that just built a new arena. It would just be a travesty if Donald Sterling were the one to get to move to Vegas. But the contemporary NBA is all about ultra modern brand-new arenas with all the bells and whistles.

But we are starting to see another NBA with LeBron and Bosh going to Miami and Melo going to the Knicks. Young multimillionaires don't want to live and play in cowtowns. The NBA can ramrod Sacramento, Oklahoma City, Utah, and Memphis down everyone's throats all they want to. They can draft but no free agents will sign there. When was the last time one of those franchises or Toronto, New Orleans, Charlotte, Denver, Minnesota, or Cleveland has signed a big named free agent?

NBA players want to be in Southern California, South Florida, and Orlando (cities with palm trees and beautiful women), Texas (where the land is so cheap you automatically become JR Ewing if you play pro sports), or in the Northeast (where sports is larger than life and fans from different cities battle for you like clans in "Braveheart").
I hate to admit it, but this post makes a lot of sense. Bummer.

I read Lew Alcindor's (KAJ) book "Giant Steps" and in it he pretty much supported this post above. He hated playing in Milwaukee and really wanted to play in LA or NY (his home town). So, in 1975 he signed with the Lakers; Four years later the Lakers draft Magic and the rest is history. Milwaukee was a little too non-diverse for Alcindor (who at the time wasn't particularly enamored with white people - or those who make up a large component of Milwaukee).

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Old 02-21-2011, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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LA already has the Kings and they play at the Staples Center like the Lakers and Clippers do. LOL

That being said, No wonder Sacramento doesn't want to build them a new home. Have you seen their stats?

Now I am wondering how they would do against the LA Kings Hockey Team. Maybe that would be a good matchup for them, Kings against Kings.
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Old 02-22-2011, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Placerville
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The new arena was never built because the Maloofs expected the City of Sacramento (taxpayers) to fund it.

They didn't spend millions to build it. They spent millions to promote their desire to have the public fund an arena for the a private sector business. The issue of a tax payer funded arena actually went up for vote here in 2006 and failed.

Several other ideas have come up since then, including the most recent land swap proposal. All of them would have been at varying degrees of public expense.

The only people crying about the Kings leaving up here are the Kings fans. Really, the rest of us are worn out on the issue.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:32 AM
 
Location: CO
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Sacramento is kind of a really odd city when it comes to sports.

The metro area is larger than places such as Indianapolis, Charlotte, Kansas City, Nashville and Milwaukee, yet those metro areas all have multiple pro teams and multiple pro facilities. Yet, Sacramento can't even adequately support a single major league club.

Other places I've lived, like Cleveland, Kansas City and Philly, you'd see folks wearing team jackets or shirts, and have team logos plastered inside of car rear windows. Here, you see absolutely none of that at all.

I have little doubt the Kings are seriously considering leaving, the support for the team isn't all that strong here. I doubt if over 10% of the population here would be upset about their departures.

Very odd.
I agree with what another poster said about this - Californians in general don't seem all that big on sports. You'll see a bunch of fans, sure, but living in the bay area I didn't get the sense that sports were as big as in other cities/regions, even though there were 2 football teams, 2 baseball teams, a hockey team, and a basketball team (with the Kings not too far away). We found that Denver is a HUGE sports town in comparison, even though it's a smaller market. Tons of fans, and loyal fans at that. People out here love their teams and they support their teams. A bit different than what I experienced in California.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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Fatal errors on Maloof part if they move to LA, where there are already two teams. The fortunes of Maloof, if not already collapsing, will definitely if they move to Orange county or LA. The best suggestions are Kansas City, San Jose and San Antonio.
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Fatal errors on Maloof part if they move to LA, where there are already two teams. The fortunes of Maloof, if not already collapsing, will definitely if they move to Orange county or LA. The best suggestions are Kansas City, San Jose and San Antonio.

I wonder if people were saying the same thing when the Clippers moved to LA - they'd never make it under the Laker shadow.

They continue to be in the Lakers shadow.
Before Blake they really never had a nationally recognized star.
They continue to lose.

Yet, they're still here.
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