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Old 02-25-2011, 11:09 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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High gas -> more people on public transit -> more money for public transit -> better public transit.

Unfortunately, those are going to be some pretty painful transitions for a lot of people.
But that only works where it's available and CA has a sketchy system when it comes to buses , trains and light rails. I fear the painful transition will be "shanks mare."
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:15 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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Who wouldn't want to take a 2 hour bus ride that would take 20 minutes in a car?
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:18 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Who wouldn't want to take a 2 hour bus ride that would take 20 minutes in a car?
Well, it makes for good nap or reading time. Wonder what the odds are of employers considering it work time as well, and paying you for it.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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About the same odd as yours truly dropping acid.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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I'm not surprised.... For the short term, we seem to selectively remember the fluctuations in gas prices can make us feel optimistic about prices going down. But in reality, over the long term of the past 50 years, the fluctuations have been inching higher and higher. We're seeing a sharp increase of gas prices due to oil supply depleting quickly because of the world population increasing at an exponential rate.

The only thing we can do is work on alternative energy, while trying to practice conservation. But do we really do it?

Brace yourselves for a $5 gallon in the next few years.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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High gas -> more people on public transit -> more money for public transit -> better public transit.
Transit operates at a loss, so more people on transit means greater expenses for the transit agencies which will probably result in reductions in service, not increased service.

The transit agencies will also be paying higher fuel bills which means higher fares.

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Unfortunately, those are going to be some pretty painful transitions for a lot of people.
Especially for people like me who live in areas with little or no bus service.

What's the solution? How about some form of ride sharing. Both drivers and passengers should go through background checks to weed out the sickos and there should be some kind of online service to coordinate rides and standardize fees.

Ride sharing, as it exists today, is for people who are commuting to work five times a week with the same fixed schedule. I want something more flexible. Say I want to go to the beach or to Disneyland, I should be able to connect with someone else in my neighborhood who is doing the same and help with the fuel costs.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:24 AM
 
Location: The Pacific Northwest
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I already saw it at $4.05 for regular unleaded in San Diego. ugh
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:28 AM
 
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I already saw it at $4.05 for regular unleaded in San Diego. ugh
Watch for $5.00 or even $6.00 by Summer if there aren't any improvements in the Middle East.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula
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The only thing we can do is work on alternative energy, while trying to practice conservation. But do we really do it?
We could do it, but only if the population didn't keep increasing. With population continuing to increase I see no possible way to do it with alternative energy and conservation, or at least not for decades.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: the illegal immigrant state
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Who wouldn't want to take a 2 hour bus ride that would take 20 minutes in a car?
Too concisely and briefly said.

That and public trans often has dregs on it- hoodlums, people who don't bathe, etc.

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The only thing we can do is work on alternative energy, while trying to practice conservation. But do we really do it?
That reminds me of how many Priuses (sp??) I see here- a lot, and ironically, in the better parts of the valley. In the working class parts of the valley, I see more trucks and SUV"s. No irony there .

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Transit operates at a loss, so more people on transit means greater expenses for the transit agencies which will probably result in reductions in service, not increased service.
This seems counterintuitive to me, esp where I live as the lower ridership has been a cause of reduction in service.

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What's the solution? How about some form of ride sharing. Both drivers and passengers should go through background checks to weed out the sickos and there should be some kind of online service to coordinate rides and standardize fees.

Ride sharing, as it exists today, is for people who are commuting to work five times a week with the same fixed schedule. I want something more flexible. Say I want to go to the beach or to Disneyland, I should be able to connect with someone else in my neighborhood who is doing the same and help with the fuel costs.
I like paragraph 1. I don't want to be stuck in a car full of the same loud & hostile lowlifes who I loathe.

I just wonder if there could be any service in which it would be possible to coordinate what kind of people you rideshare with at a lower cost without there being the predictable allegations of discrimination, even though we all discriminate against each other every day.

Alas, for the working class and middle class person who just wants quiet, cleanliness and safety, there's no way to buy one's isolation from the lowlifes .

Paragraph 2 is interesting but doesn't something of the kind already exist?

If not, I wonder how these ideas could be put into practice. Hmmm....
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