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Old 03-04-2011, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Capitol & Tully
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I hope so Don. You sounded quite hateful in your above speech. Claiming that me and my fellow struggling Americans aren't working hard and are just looking for handouts. I hope that wasn't what you were talking about.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Capitol & Tully
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Young people are just retards right Don? No people my age could actually be able to think like a smart man as yourself right?
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Young people are just retards right Don? No people my age could actually be able to think like a smart man as yourself right?
Oh, are you young? Go figure
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:32 PM
 
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I hope so Don. You sounded quite hateful in your above speech. Claiming that me and my fellow struggling Americans aren't working hard and are just looking for handouts. I hope that wasn't what you were talking about.
Evergreen, I actually sympathize with you about the changing business landscape. Here's a cut and paste of my post from another forum:

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I am all for the American dream for anyone who aspires to have wealth through hard work. But today, having the free and fair opportunity to do so is a different story altogether. That American dream landscape has changed drastically from the early 80's when my parents were honest working immigrants who saved and saved money until they could own their first small business outright. Three small businesses later and 15 years later, we are still in the game and still working hard to bear the fruits of our labor.

Firsthand, we've seen the dynamics of how big government and big businesses alike have made it extremely difficult for the average middle class American to thrive in the private sector as small business owners. Do you guys think all businesses, particularly the big ones that can influence the business landscape in the private sector, play by the rules?

Gimme a break.
The thing is, both the government and the big businesses have forgotten about the middle class. I don't trust either of them because they are too big and don't always serve the interests of the middle class. When the government can be a big influential vehicle occupied by politicians, whether they be Democrats or Republicans -- they are always at the extreme ends of both political spectrum. Big businesses will lobby for certain laws and regulations to benefit themselves, while wiping out the rest of the competition (small businesses). The big government passes laws meant to regulate and tax big businesses, but they don't take into account of the small business owners in the private sector. That's why I voted for Meg Whitman because she was pro business. But now I'm seeing that Brown is doing a good job so far with the budget.

I'm not a liberal. I'm not a conservative either. My views are moderate and my vote on political issues depends on whether they will help promote the greater collective responsibility for the society as whole.

So my first question was, why do you feel the minimum wage should be raised to $12.00? And we all saw everyone add their input on the negative effects of mandating a huge raise of $4.00 when our economy is in recovery mode.
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:18 PM
 
Location: US
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My family and I are stuck in a small crap town in Alaska working virtually 7 days a week in our business...if you want to live somewhere really nice without an outstanding background or connection, you're going to have to understand...you probably won't become rich...and you shouldn't punish those who are because the majority had to make major sacrifices at some point in their lives, sacrifices most people wouldn't do, so they deserve it...like I said the MAJORITY...there are always some who didn't do squat such as trust fund babies etc.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Yeah, like cops and forum moderators.
LMAO!
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Old 03-05-2011, 12:37 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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How about a minimum wage depending on the company's annual earnings, so that it won't hurt small businesses? Like companies that make over a certain amount will have to pay more and companies making less will have a lower minimum wage?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suVB3YGIUk0
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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How can the minimum wage in this state be only $8.00/hr? How can people survive on that amount of money? It's ridiculous when you factor in the rent prices, gas, and insane taxes we have. The minimum wage should be adjusted to the cost of living. Washington, Vermont, Oregon, Nevada, Illinois, and Connecticut all have higher minimum wages than California. What a joke.
min wage is normally something teens work for as well as people seeking second jobs, etc. It is also paid for the post meanial (spelling) type of jobs. It isn't meant to be something one lives on. I don't care if one started working in the 50s, 90s or now. We all worked for min wage and most of us educated ourselves and moved up in the world.

If you are a kid with little of no skills, working for $8.00 an hour is what you will have to be happy with. Take your $12 an hour theory to the small business owner in Ca that is trying to keep his company open. See how far you get.

NIta
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:51 AM
 
Location: United States
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No, just bring the rent down to human levels, like the $600. range like the other 90% of the country.
And CA wonders why they have 12 people living in a 1 bedroom apartment
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:58 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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No, just bring the rent down to human levels, like the $600. range like the other 90% of the country.
And CA wonders why they have 12 people living in a 1 bedroom apartment
Yeah! That's the ticket. I'm sure the landlord who has a $1,200 or more a month mortgage would be happy to do that for you.

Where do you people come from?
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