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Old 03-17-2011, 04:47 PM
 
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It looks like there is another bill in Congress to expand the National Park Service's protection of California's deserts. Has anyone else heard anymore about this bill in the last month or so? How do the people in California feel about it?

What Obama's America's Great Outdoor Proposal Means for Southern California | Environment | SoCal Focus | KCET
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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The BLM already controls with a iron fist. This must be some manuver to wrestle control (funds) away from BLM.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:15 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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The BLM already controls with a iron fist
BLM, Iron Fist? care to explain?
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Yeah, really. I love camping on BLM land because you can do practically anything you want as long as you don't destroy anything, don't go off roads*, and whatever you brought with you take everything with you when you leave (e.g. trash). I love BLM land!


* Some areas allow off road use.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:56 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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BLM has a pretty light hand on the land compared with NPS, we will generally chose BLM land over NPS for our outings.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Wow! High & Lite and Lovehound are in perfect agreement, for once!

One thing I really like about camping on BLM land is that it's an unhidden secret, standing right out there in the open and marked on all good maps. I haven't ever seen any entrance or camping fees on BLM (although there may be fee areas I haven't been to), you can camp wherever you like unless it's posted "no camping," and you often get total solitude and peace and quiet.

Whenever I'm camping and it's getting late and I haven't found a campground I just get out my map and find the nearest BLM land and head there. Even if you can't find a pretty camping spot you can almost always find a spot to pull of the road and camp for the night.

I'm telling too many of my secrets! Fortunately there's plenty of BLM land!


I love the Bureau of Livestock and Mining!
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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You are coming along quite nicely there Lovehound. I too enjoy camping on Bureau of Large Mistakes land.

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Old 03-18-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Yeah, I've camped there too! Or some place like it. There's probably about a million places just like that. Plenty of room for you and your thousand best friends.

I don't need those silly paved parking spots and a wood table and a little post where I clip my receipt that shows I paid for the camping spot.



I'm not 100% sure that's BLM but I think so, and this was my typical camping style.

Oops, recently got a 5th wheeler, guess I won't be back there unless it's a side trip.
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Old 03-18-2011, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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This is one I like to escape to:
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You think I'm nuts? I don't want every Tom, Dick and Harry spoiling my little corner of paradise. DM me for the details and I might tell you where
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Old 03-18-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Good one Fontucky.. I will let you have your paradise, I gots mine.

Lovehound, I have hauled those clear plastic boxes all over the country, sometimes with a yuppie bucket like you have, sometimes not.

I got so tired of taking them out at night setting camp, loading them up again... I got a camper

I did not get a 5th wheel as I tow stuff, Jeep, motorcycle, horses boats... It was either a camper on a pickup or a Sportsmobile, and once I priced them, it was easy to buy a camper, I bought the one on the truck for $650.00 Makes me happy, being a bit of a Scot.

If you look carefully at left center in the photo you can see my truck at camp. I do like elbow room.



A quick BLM story, Carrizo Plains is a BLM run National Monument, they have one patrol Ranger for 240,000 acres, but, they share him with BLM land at Lake Isabella, where he stays busy writing tickets to drunks,, leaving the 240,000 acre National Monument clear of LEO's, and except for the occasional clowns who like target practice in the campground, everyone takes care of the land.
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