1 and 6 Americans are Hispanic (live in, location, Brazilian)

[yeahthatguy]

Originally Posted by Ludachris

Well, this paragraph makes it look as if you and I agree. Poverty is the key issue in all of this, not race. The person I quoted in the reply you responded to made a statement saying that the Mexicans are the problem, and referred to them as poor, dirty, and dangerous - due to their culture and mentality. And that it's because of them that every city in Mexico can be described that way, because they're filled with Mexicans. That is a massive generalization of a race of people.

Read what I quoted and explain to me how this discussion can go places when statements like that are being made. I'm trying to say it's not about race, but others are focused solely on it and make degrading statements about Mexicans, while at the same time complaining when people call them on racist comments.

Yeah, agreed and you're right too ... We can discuss our numbers in the u.s and the implications of them w/o taking cheap shots and making smart remarks. That being said, as an African American, i know there are certain things about African American .. wont use culture because its a strong word .. but 'behaviors' that limit my group's general achievement and causes for economic strain on others.... If its a truthful statement, you have to just swallow it no matter how hard it is to swallow.. and a majority group provides for someone to make generalization. But we agree, sticking to the #'s and facts in the U.S w/o all the racist remarks and commentary will help this thread be constructive.

[yeahthatguy]

Originally Posted by Wallbanger

The Spanish conquered it. The Mexicans just had it for a few years after they declared their independence. Besides, almost every country in South and North America belonged to Europeans at one

And where did yeahthatguy get those statistics from anyway???? Sources, please!

The charts were compiled on data from :
Census Bureau Home Page
It's hard data ... I left out the writeup centered on the data because i didn't want to interject any bias into the debate. The information stands alone.

[yeahthatguy]

Originally Posted by Ludachris

I do agree with this as well. But we also have to keep in mind that our national culture is comprised of countless parts of other cultures due to it being a melting pot. And it's evolved over the decades as a result. Assimilation is necessary, but we have to expect the influx of cultures to continue to shape our society.

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

That's the enrichment I mentioned. Enrich but don't dominate!

Which is the issue ... You have a group that maintains high poverty rates as both non-immigrants and immigrants having their population absolutely explode. It doesn't matter what the ____ race is. That held alone is an issue .. An obvious issue ... and if there are immigration policies (legal) and a lack of enforcement (illegal) contributing to it .. Such policies need to change to prevent this from snowballing.

Now, fill in the blank with : Hispanic .. because that is who the group is (FOR NOW) . This highlights the importance of immigration policies (legal) and the enforcement of (illegal) immigration. Given that things change over time, you should allow such policies to be dynamic so as to maintain healthy diversity and prosperity at all .. i.e : If this decade its race A, but next one it is B .. dynamically change the policies to correct it ...

So, everyone from all sides.. Let me know if there is a problem w/ this thinking? .... Lets come together on some rational thoughts on the topic. What say ye' all?

[.highnlite]

This thread is another ridiculous exhibition of HnL's illegal immigrant sympathy.

Another failure of the American Public School System.

I challenge you to find any post I ever made, where I stated the least bit of sympathy for illegal immigrants.

The problem here is in the reasoning of some.

If I state a fact, you rearrange it to suit your preconception.

That is pretty darned sad, if you ask me.

[.highnlite]

And a strange quiet ensues.....

[Motherpopcorn]

Wow. I always thought it was more.Not sure if this is correct because numerous hispanics are being advised to refer themselves as "white" or cauc. on the census in CA

[wildflower82]

If you think about it, this could cure our debt somewhat. Mexico can have a bankrupt state, take care of all the welfare people and the meth heads.

I'm sure Nancy Pelsoi and Barbara Boxer won't have a problem living in MEXICO. Wonder what position the Mexican people would give them!!

[LS Jaun]

Well, I claim 100% American, even if I have some Spanish blood!

[Brenda-by-the-sea]

Originally Posted by LS Jaun

Well, I claim 100% American, even if I have some Spanish blood!

People who live in Canada, Mexico, and Brazil are 100% American, too. They're all member nations of the Organization of American States.

OAS :: Who We Are

[Hegotsoul831]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

I do find it humorous that people in towns named, San Diego, or Santa Barbara or Los Angeles or San Francisco, in a state named California, or Arizona, or Nevada, or New Mexico will complain about "them Mexicans taking over our: town, state, country.

So why would that be revelant when this is NOW The United States of America?? Sorry, but it is no LONGER owned by Mexico. People of mexican descent have no more rights to anything in those areas than those of Irish, Aisian or African.