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Unread 04-03-2011, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Default Sending Excess Water Out to the Ocean

Interesting article about the mismanagement of water supplies in California:

Operators of the three major dams on the Sacramento River have opened their gates widely, sending boiling torrents of water downstream. They must draw down reservoirs behind the dams to control anticipated runoff from one of the heaviest mountain snowpacks on record...

Those who prefer high-density urban growth, rather than low-density suburbs, believe that restricting water supplies will help their cause. They don't, in other words, want Californians to have an abundant water supply for both agricultural and non-farm uses.


Dan Walters: California's water flow squandered - Sacramento Politics - California Politics | Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2011/04/03/3523627/dan-walters-californias-water.html#ixzz1IUBMYyKe - broken link)
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Unread 04-03-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I am often perplexed by this. Everytime I see a news story about this I feel like we're seeing money thrown into a fire pit or something. Water is our most precious resource and I wonder why we don't do a better job of funnelling water from overflowing reservoirs to somewhere else that can hold excess.
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Unread 04-03-2011, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Bryte, CA
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The problem is we have too many people where there isn't enough water.

Aside from that, I've always though building percolation basins so some of the water from the rivers could be diverted into small lakes to recharge groundwater.

Another method which should be used is collecting roof runoff from housing and piping it into depressions or rain gardens so that water could be used to recharge groundwater instead of ending up into the street, becoming urban runoff and ultimately flowing into a river someplace.
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Unread 04-03-2011, 01:50 PM
 
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I am often perplexed by this. Everytime I see a news story about this I feel like we're seeing money thrown into a fire pit or something. Water is our most precious resource and I wonder why we don't do a better job of funnelling water from overflowing reservoirs to somewhere else that can hold excess.
Controlling a natural resource is political power and the water problems in California are absolutely politically driven
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Unread 04-03-2011, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Controlling a natural resource is political power and the water problems in California are absolutely politically driven
Pretty much the point he was driving home in his statement about the advocates for high density growth.
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Unread 04-03-2011, 06:52 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Drawdowns happen every year. If they don't there is no place to catch the snow melt and the lowlands will flood.

Did you ever wonder where our beach sand comes from, unlike Hawaii, it isn't parrot fish doo doo.

Our beach sand comes from the mountains, down the stream channels to the ocean where it enters the ocean and is returned as beach sand. No "excess water" carrying the sand the ocean, no more beaches.

No "excess water" carried downstream, no more estuarys, the home of the basic blocks of the ocean food chain.

No "excess water carried downstream, little life in the ocean.

I suggest before you think of grand water retention and delivery schemes you read, Cadillac Desert, by Marc Reisner.
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Unread 04-03-2011, 09:36 PM
 
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Drawdowns happen every year. If they don't there is no place to catch the snow melt and the lowlands will flood.

Did you ever wonder where our beach sand comes from, unlike Hawaii, it isn't parrot fish doo doo.

Our beach sand comes from the mountains, down the stream channels to the ocean where it enters the ocean and is returned as beach sand. No "excess water" carrying the sand the ocean, no more beaches.

No "excess water" carried downstream, no more estuarys, the home of the basic blocks of the ocean food chain.

No "excess water carried downstream, little life in the ocean.

I suggest before you think of grand water retention and delivery schemes you read, Cadillac Desert, by Marc Reisner.





Ha, ha, ha...

I do believe that is the funniest post you have ever put up.

Thanks.

He, he, he...
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Unread 04-04-2011, 01:16 AM
 
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Interesting article about the mismanagement of water supplies in California:

Operators of the three major dams on the Sacramento River have opened their gates widely, sending boiling torrents of water downstream. They must draw down reservoirs behind the dams to control anticipated runoff from one of the heaviest mountain snowpacks on record...

Those who prefer high-density urban growth, rather than low-density suburbs, believe that restricting water supplies will help their cause. They don't, in other words, want Californians to have an abundant water supply for both agricultural and non-farm uses.

Dan Walters: California's water flow squandered - Sacramento Politics - California Politics | Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2011/04/03/3523627/dan-walters-californias-water.html#ixzz1IUBMYyKe - broken link)
This just supports my POV that the biggest problem on planet Earth is not overpopulation but mismanagement of resources, often deliberate, in order to achieve some other agenda.
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Unread 04-04-2011, 02:06 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Ha, ha, ha...

I do believe that is the funniest post you have ever put up.

Thanks.

He, he, he...

Just think, you could have manned up and stated your disagreement.
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Unread 04-04-2011, 03:40 PM
 
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Ha, ha, ha...

I do believe that is the funniest post you have ever put up.

Thanks.

He, he, he...

What in the heck are you babbling about.
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