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Old 08-18-2011, 08:40 PM
Location: San Leandro
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Originally Posted by mateo45 View Post
Excellent comparison re: traffic, crime and the other "realities" (although I'm still not sure I'd prefer NYC, etc. to the Cali coast... and it's not just about the weather, either)! The coast is a nice place to "visit", but frankly I've been spoiled by things here in the N. Sacto valley, where the weather's fine (especially in the cooler foothills), property's cheap, it's gorgeous and uncrowded, and I can't remember when I was last stuck in traffic, anywhere here!

But to Fresnofacts' points, it also highlights the differences between the southern and the northern parts of the Valley, where here we don't have quite the same "growth" pressures, although culturally and politically, they're all still pretty conservative, at least compared to the coast. And I still think that's the main problem, that will continue to resist even upgrades in "education". Innovation and hi-tech startups happen where there's a combination of factors, including an educated workforce, a reasonably diverse and supportive community, and bright people with ideas! And let's face it, those kinds of things are just less common in places where the local cultural hero is Buck Owens!

And of course there's going to be a huge influx of "immigrants" in the Valley, along with the attendant "problems". They're drawn there by agricultural jobs (duh!)... you know, the kinda work which our own "underclass" would rather ignore and instead collect the welfare they're "entitled" to, as "real" Amurikans!

It really depends on where in the valley you are talking about with regards to education. Here in the Sac area we have school districts in middle class areas that are the best in the state, for example Rocklin. Now go to the bay area, look at a middle class area like Union City, with a higher median family income than Rocklin. The schools in Rocklin perfom way better.
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Old 08-21-2011, 10:34 AM
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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There were times in my life when I thought I would like to live in San Francisco or the northern-central coast. But those all lost their appeal for me in due time based on cost of living alone, as I'm not one to sacrifice a whole paycheck just to pay rent. I want more for my buck. Also, I decided that those places are a mite too cold weatherwise for me, anyway.

My roots are in the CV, and that's where I'll return to.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:06 PM
Location: Philadelphia
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Coastal Cali also has warmer nights than inland Cali, so that is a plus
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:46 PM
Location: Philadelphia
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Warmer coastal nights might be a reason why
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