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Old 05-24-2011, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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This is good news. I hope the trend continues.

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Attorney General Kamala D. Harris released updated figures Tuesday showing that the homicide rate in California continued to fall during 2010, reaching the lowest level since 1966.


Preliminary figures gathered by the Department of Justice from the state's largest jurisdictions show that the number of homicides reported in 2010 declined by 9.6 percent from the year before.

Overall, the number of violent crimes declined 6.4 percent in 2010, according to statistics compiled from 89 agencies that report about 65 percent of all crimes committed annually in California. Forcible rape declined 6 percent. Robbery dropped 8.9 percent, and aggravated assault fell 4.6 percent.


Property crimes declined 2.2 percent in 2010. Burglary dropped 0.9 percent. Motor vehicle theft declined 7.2 percent. Arson dropped 15 percent. Larceny under $400 dropped 4.9 percent. Only larceny over $400 rose, by 0.7 percent.

Homicide Rate In California Drops To 44-Year Low - Bakersfield News Story - KERO Bakersfield

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Old 05-25-2011, 01:41 AM
 
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This is good news. I hope the trend continues.

Thanks for posting. There aren't enough positive posts in the CD forums. i wonder if the positve crime trend will continue. The homidide rate in San Jose is double what it was at the same time last year. I hope that isn't the case for other CA cities.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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The first thing I thought when I read the thread title wasn't "Why so low now?", but rather "Why so high in 1966?" I don't think of the mid 1960s as being particularly violent or high crime or whatever. What might explain that? Demographics? High numbers of baby boomers in their "most likely age to commit murder (mid 20s)" years?
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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High numbers of baby boomers in their "most likely age to commit murder (mid 20s)" years?
We were all too stoned back then to commit moiduh. Peace and love.
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Old 05-25-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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Here is the raw data. 1960-2009
California Crime Rates 1960 - 2009
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:19 PM
 
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The first thing I thought when I read the thread title wasn't "Why so low now?", but rather "Why so high in 1966?" I don't think of the mid 1960s as being particularly violent or high crime or whatever.
If you lived in South Central or West Oakland it would have been a different story from living where you grew up. Although the problems in those areas in '66 were nothing compared to what they'd be in later decades. But said problems were heavily concentrated in certain places, and nothing was done due to official neglect motivated by racism in law enforcement and government, especially by inept departments like LAPD and OPD.

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What might explain that? Demographics? High numbers of baby boomers in their "most likely age to commit murder (mid 20s)" years?
Demographics had A LOT to do with it. The economy in '66 was great so that wasn't a factor. The oldest boomers in '66 would've been 21 - a 25 year old in 1966 would've been "Silent Generation", born in 1940 or 1941, during that brief post-Depression pre-WW2 era. The number of males between 15-25 however was rapidly increasing.

Recent population trends are the reason why crime in CA is generally stable or decreasing despite a horrendous economy, and things actually look good for the future (unless you're in the San Joaquin Valley or Imperial County):

Child population study: USC study finds big drop in number of children living in Los Angeles County - latimes.com
San Francisco Households Have Fewer Kids Than Any In California: News: SFAppeal
San Francisco Households Have Fewer Kids - WSJ.com
The Graying of California | NBC Los Angeles

Despite some of these articles seeing the aging of the state as a bad thing, to me it is a good thing. Not only when it comes to crime but also when it comes to resources, housing, jobs, etc. A stable population is very desirable for many reasons.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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This is good news. I hope the trend continues.
Maybe the cowards are simply running out of unarmed victims!
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Old 05-25-2011, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Maybe the cowards are simply running out of unarmed victims!
I dont think ur too far off the mark actually.

Oakland's police department has stated on several occasions that the majority of murder victims in the city are criminals killing other criminals while mutually engaged in criminal activity(that make sense?)

Example, 2 rival drug dealers get into a gunfight and one dies. Those kinds of circumstances supposedly account for 80-90% of homcides in Oakland. After that, the biggest cause of murder is domestic violence.

Something tells me that the rest of California is largely the same way.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:17 PM
 
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Example, 2 rival drug dealers get into a gunfight and one dies.
If both would die, you'd hear no complaint from this end.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:49 PM
 
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I dont think ur too far off the mark actually.

Oakland's police department has stated on several occasions that the majority of murder victims in the city are criminals killing other criminals while mutually engaged in criminal activity(that make sense?)

Example, 2 rival drug dealers get into a gunfight and one dies. Those kinds of circumstances supposedly account for 80-90% of homcides in Oakland. After that, the biggest cause of murder is domestic violence.

Something tells me that the rest of California is largely the same way.

It's true that the drug dealers might all kill each other...but then new drug dealers come on the scene and repeat the cycle.
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