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Old 06-02-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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Educated people get better paying jobs and pay more taxes.
Uneducated people making less money use more social services.
Sounds like a good long-term investment to me.
I agree, but as I said before, who will hire illegals? Until that's resolved this really isn't an investment. Employers cannot hire undocumented people. If they do they run a very real risk of fines etc., so any legitimate employer will still steer clear, even in CA.
I know; the next step is to pass meaningful immigration reform but unfortunately I don't see that happening in the near future.
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Old 06-02-2011, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Define "way up". How exactly would allowing children of illegal immigrants "to apply for aid from private gifts or endowments" would send taxes way up?

Also, according to the article, we're talking about 5,000 university students across the entire state. If we wanted to, it would cost us somewhere around 0.1% of the state budget to pay for their entire tuition.

What about the kid that doesn't quite get accepted because there are too many illegals already applying and getting into a university? You think this is fair?

Let people apply for citizenship then they can go to our public universities. If these kids came to America illegally, what makes you say "kids of illegals"? the are illegals unless Ca has changed that law as well.

We all know there has to be something done about the amnesty problem but allowing kids to enter college when they are undocumented is just wrong!!!!!

Nita
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Old 06-02-2011, 02:56 PM
 
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Educated people get better paying jobs and pay more taxes.
Uneducated people making less money use more social services.
Sounds like a good long-term investment to me.
Now consider 12% of skilled/unskilled are unemployed, many equally qualified applicants to colleges are turned away due to lack of room, and your 'investment' doesn't really seem like an investment anymore. It seems more like a redistribution of benefits and opportunity from people who legally followed the rules to people who illegally took advantage of them. Nice try though. Your logic would work if there was no unemployment, a surplus of slots at Universities, and a big demand for workers .. Sadly, that isn't the reality !
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Old 06-04-2011, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Educated people get better paying jobs and pay more taxes.
Uneducated people making less money use more social services.
Sounds like a good long-term investment to me.
start with educated people get better jobs and make more money: This isn't always the case: now, let see, who will hire these educated illegals? Many states are now forbidding any coorporation from hiring illegals regardless of who they are and what about illegal do you not understand? Whether by their parents doing or whatever, these kids are illegally living in America and you think they should get accepted into college? Do you think they should pay out of state tuition or just depend on private grants? How many private grants do you think there are and what about the kids who need financual help and are legally living in our country? I see too many holes in your theory.

Nita
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Old 06-04-2011, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Police State
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No money for police and infrastructure, but we have the funds for this BS. I'm so glad that Moonbeam has his priorities straight.
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Old 06-04-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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start with educated people get better jobs and make more money: This isn't always the case: now, let see, who will hire these educated illegals? Many states are now forbidding any coorporation from hiring illegals regardless of who they are and what about illegal do you not understand? Whether by their parents doing or whatever, these kids are illegally living in America and you think they should get accepted into college? Do you think they should pay out of state tuition or just depend on private grants? How many private grants do you think there are and what about the kids who need financual help and are legally living in our country? I see too many holes in your theory.

Nita
Not to worry, the same republican businessmen who encouraged the influx of cheap labor will now encourage the educated workers, just follow the money. Do you really think state laws will keep illegals, educated or not from working? Well, yes you do, but, the facts do not support your contention.
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