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Old 06-19-2011, 06:49 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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And, yes, it's also applicable to other places around the country as well. But it certainly typifies some of our Sacramento experiences before we left and that's my frame of reference and personal experience.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Interesting to note that in Missouri larceny and theft runs
about 2,500+ per thousand
In California about 1,700+ per thousand

mmm
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:05 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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Getting your **** stolen from you in a big city. Imagine that. I'd have never made the connection.
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Oh, I make the connection just fine. Friday we were in the closest city whose population is now swollen by tourists ans seasonal workers flooding the service occupations. We bought some outdoor furniture for our rear patio and front deck. It all wouldn't fit inside the car so I had to fit chairs and some other items as best I could in the trunk, bungee it in and the lid down as far as it would go to hold it. We then made three more stops for other shopping, leaving the car in the store parking lots with all this nice stuff just there for the taking. At no time were we the least bit concerned. Nor are we concerned about waking up one morning and finding our furniture, grill, etc. gone overnight.

Now then, I decidedly wouldn't risk this in St. Louis. Kansas City, Springfield, etc. But in CA I'm not sure I'd risk it in a rural setting, either, despite "dire" statistics based upon the population centers here in MO. which have no correlation with rural Ozarks or the bulk of the land mass and are, therefore, rather meaningless in this context.. Where we are, privacy fences are almost totally absent so things sit in the open and are there the next morning. It's a comfort factor.

All the rhetoric aside, I still think the sign's funny!
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:55 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Here in California, we have no idea where our house keys are, our house is never locked, garage door is seldom down, generally only when the dust from plowing blows in, the barn is never locked, the gate is only closed on halloween, and our vehicle keys are in the ignition, there is a fortune in tractors, plows, seeders, pipe, all fenced and ungated.

Never a problem.
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Here in California, we have no idea where our house keys are, our house is never locked, garage door is seldom down, generally only when the dust from plowing blows in, the barn is never locked, the gate is only closed on halloween, and our vehicle keys are in the ignition, there is a fortune in tractors, plows, seeders, pipe, all fenced and ungated.

Never a problem.
Of course.
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:57 PM
 
Location: California
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Actually, I'm in the Bay Area and I used to never lock my front door and I would leave the back slider open in nice weather for the cats to come in and out. The only reason I don't do it now is because there were two incidents of theft in my neighborhood which they tracked to a local boy who would wander around and look for opportunities. He wandered into a house where someone was actually home and ran away. It just got me thinking since I'm alone most of the time it's best to keep things locked and not tempt fate, you never know how some idiot will react when confronted like that.
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:05 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I left my garage door open until I went to bed last night (I was working out front and forgot it). It was 1 AM and I had a funny feeling I should check it. Sure enough, it was wide open with all my tools and stored stuffed still intact. That's about the fifth or sixth time I've done that (left it open all night once) in the couple years I've owned this house and I've never lost a thing. This is a row house out in the Sunset District. I'm a San Francisco native who has parked on the street for decades. I keep my car empty of visible items and have had a car broken into exactly one time in all those years (I forgot to remove an aftermarket stereo faceplate one night). I have never had an apartment or house burglarized. I've also never been the victim of a physical crime (although being a 6'4" male probably helped ). Basically, it is possible to live in urban areas of California and survive relatively unscathed from crime. Maybe I'm extremely lucky, I'm sure Curmudgeon will say so.

Funny warning sign though.
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: California
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I live in a condo complex in San Jose and we have people from other areas coming through during the day, and of course at night, looking to break into units. One of my neighbors had all parts removed from her air conditioner, another just a Christmas wreath, another young mother went for her kitchen knife when a man was attempting to break in. Cars parked on the street are often vandalized so we keep ours in the garage with the door down as I can't rely on the cat for much protection. This just isn't the America I grew up in.

Ceece, was that the story that made the news when the victim used her cell phone to make a movie of the guy before he sexually assulted her?

Jeffredo, we hear a lot of stories on the news about the district, but I have a friend who lives on 17th St., as I recall, but never seems to have a problem. You are right, 6'4 probably helps. We always like jumping the train and spending the day in the City, such a great place and you are lucky to live there.
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Here in California, we have no idea where our house keys are, our house is never locked, garage door is seldom down, generally only when the dust from plowing blows in, the barn is never locked, the gate is only closed on halloween, and our vehicle keys are in the ignition, there is a fortune in tractors, plows, seeders, pipe, all fenced and ungated.

Never a problem.
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Of course.
I imagine there are a few million of us Californians who not only do not live in fear, but feel no need to live in fear. The Conservative psychological operant is fear, that is why conservatives are conservatives, fortunately most people are not driven by fear.

The "of course" would be the response of someone who has to justify their moving to some eastern state.
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