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Old 06-27-2011, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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They are not. If you would read my original post, I highlighted a quote in bold. My statement above was made in sarcasm, a criticism of the state gov't and governor not placing a higher priority on improving out state economy.
Unfortunately our state legislators are too bogged down in partisan bickering to get the point that our state's future is being HINDERED by their lack of foresight when it comes to making the business environment more condusive for employers and businesses.

And to be honest, I feel the state GOP along with many Republicans in California actually WANT the state to go down just so they can gloat.

Its really quite disgusting. The party of NO will ultimately get their comeuppance at the ballot box and the trends of state elections of late confirm that.

That much I get and totally agree with.

On the other hand, the media's overblown coverage of the state budget impasse has not stopped California businesses from creating millions of jobs over the years.

Imagine if the state govt actually had a positive effect on job creation.

California would be unstoppable.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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Unfortunately our state legislators are too bogged down in partisan bickering to get the point that our state's future is being HINDERED by their lack of foresight when it comes to making the business environment more condusive for employers and businesses.

And to be honest, I feel the state GOP along with many Republicans in California actually WANT the state to go down just so they can gloat.

Its really quite disgusting. The party of NO will ultimately get their comeuppance at the ballot box and the trends of state elections of late confirm that.

That much I get and totally agree with.

On the other hand, the media's overblown coverage of the state budget impasse has not stopped California businesses from creating millions of jobs over the years.

Imagine if the state govt actually had a positive effect on job creation.

California would be unstoppable.
Bingo.

My frustration has a lot to do with the do-nothings in the state capitol from both sides of the fence. If the legislators would focus on helping improve our state economy, that would produce more jobs for every Californians who desperately needed. But they are too embroiled in the partisan bickering and scoring political points for their next election.

Note that I never said California should be anything like Texas, but they should notice that other states are starting to come out of the recession with some steam. It's rather embarrassing that California is lagging behind.

And historically, our country has always succeeded when there is bipartisanship.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I get it. When it comes to criticism about our state, it's a tough pill to swallow.
No, not saying that. Criticize all you want but why bring up Texas constantly? Perhaps it would be less distracting if we did. I love Ca. but have done my fair share of griping about it too.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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No, not saying that. Criticize all you want but why bring up Texas constantly? Perhaps it would be less distracting if we did. I love Ca. but have done my fair share of griping about it too.
I don't constantly bring up Texas. But when I have, there's a hint of jealousy that goes along with it. One has to admit that Texas is doing something right to get themselves above the national rates in job creation. I have no doubt that other Californians want that as badly as I do.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Bingo.

My frustration has a lot to do with the do-nothings in the state capitol from both sides of the fence. If the legislators would focus on helping improve our state economy, that would produce more jobs for every Californians who desperately needed. But they are too embroiled in the partisan bickering and scoring political points for their next election.

Note that I never said California should be anything like Texas, but they should notice that other states are starting to come out of the recession with some steam. It's rather embarrassing that California is lagging behind.

And historically, our country has always succeeded when there is bipartisanship.
From bickering to repping +1

No I'm not bipolar I just give credit where it's due
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Very good post...for the Texas forum!
Sometimes the truth hurts.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I don't constantly bring up Texas. But when I have, there's a hint of jealousy that goes along with it. One has to admit that Texas is doing something right to get themselves above the national rates in job creation. I have no doubt that other Californians want that as badly as I do.
Yes we do. However, Texas has a model that works for it because it's a different state. We need to find a model that works for us. One that fits us for the unique state we are just like Texas found a way for them. They didn't copy another state. I believe North Dakota is doing quite well too and they have a system that works for them. We can't be Texas, we have to be California. As you mentioned, getting rid of the do nothings is where we need to start. That's our problem in our state.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Why do people in Texas think anyone cares. If they want to be in Texas that's fine FOR THEM. Every Day more Texans trying to compare it with California. It's just sad.

I'll go out to I-10 and see if there is a mass migration from California
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Sometimes the truth hurts.
shhhhh go back to sleep
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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Yes we do. However, Texas has a model that works for it because it's a different state. We need to find a model that works for us. One that fits us for the unique state we are just like Texas found a way for them. They didn't copy another state. I believe North Dakota is doing quite well too and they have a system that works for them. We can't be Texas, we have to be California. As you mentioned, getting rid of the do nothings is where we need to start. That's our problem in our state.

Good points. You might be interested in reading articles written by Fareed Zakaria who proposes solutions to get America's economy back on track. A lot of my opinions of late is based on his writings. Here are several worth checking out:

TIME: Fareed Zakaria

TIME: Fareed Zakaria

TIME: Fareed Zakaria

WP: Fareed Zakaria

I suggest following this guy. He isn't a liberal or conservative -- but he is very objective and this guy actually proposes solutions. He makes politicians look silly.

Happy reading.
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