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Old 06-27-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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The California Dream is fizzling out: "California isn't what it used to be. Sure, America's most populous state, with 37.3 million people, is still home to Hollywood, "The OC," Silicon Valley and other cultural and economic engines. But for average Americans, the state seems to have lost its appeal."

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The California Dream is fizzling out - CNN.com

 
Old 06-27-2011, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I liked the Then and Now photos associated with the article.

Then and now: Southern California
 
Old 06-27-2011, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Ehhh, you can really state this about any area in the country.

I have great memories of old Philly and south Jersey, and I would express similar sentiments about the changes that I've seen there over the past nearly 60 years (especially to places such as Atlantic City).

Kind of depends upon your own personal baseline, I guess.
 
Old 06-27-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Ehhh, you can really state this about any area in the country.

I have great memories of old Philly and south Jersey, and I would express similar sentiments about the changes that I've seen there over the past nearly 60 years (especially to places such as Atlantic City).

Kind of depends upon your own personal baseline, I guess.
I think you're absolutely right. If I'm not mistaken, it's often referred to as "nostalgia." Change and "progress" are inevitable. What matters is each individual's tolerance for it. Perhaps unfortunately, or maybe not, mine is rather low.
 
Old 06-27-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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Change and "progress" are inevitable. What matters is each individual's tolerance for it. Perhaps unfortunately, or maybe not, mine is rather low.
Yes, you've mentioned that 5 or 6000 times.

 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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The California Dream is fizzling out: "California isn't what it used to be. Sure, America's most populous state, with 37.3 million people, is still home to Hollywood, "The OC," Silicon Valley and other cultural and economic engines. But for average Americans, the state seems to have lost its appeal."
This says it all.

For about 2 decades now, the majority of our growth has not come from 'Average Americans', but from Immigrants.

If we relied on the good graces of 'Average Americans', then we would have seen an overall decline long ago-but that hasnt been the case.

Since the millions of people have left, our state economy has continued to grow and reach unprecented levels attained by no other state-in fact, CAs economy will suprass $2 Trillion next year.
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Yes, you've mentioned that 5 or 6000 times.
::::sigh:::: There's one in every group but at least you know your rightful place!

 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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One quibble I have with the article is the notion that carrying capacity has been reached. Anyone who's visited Southern Europe or North Africa (which have a similar climate) can tell you that is hogwash. The issue is not too many people. The issue is policy. And the damage has been done.
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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This says it all.

For about 2 decades now, the majority of our growth has not come from 'Average Americans', but from Immigrants.

If we relied on the good graces of 'Average Americans', then we would have seen an overall decline long ago-but that hasnt been the case.

Since the millions of people have left, our state economy has continued to grow and reach unprecented levels attained by no other state-in fact, CAs economy will suprass $2 Trillion next year.
However even the immigrants are generally bypassing it now.

Only ones who already have money are interested.
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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