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Old 07-10-2011, 12:30 AM
 
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Umm...no, its no more voluntary than paying income taxes, the only difference is that the state doesn't enforce it.



You're confused again, the main lobby group for this change is brick and mortar retailers. I have no idea why you are trying to attach this issue to liberalism, it has nothing to do with it.

The issue is simple, all states have a use tax requirement but aren't enforcing it because its rather difficult to enforce. Online retailers would essentially be collecting out-of-state residents use tax for them. It terms of the legal issues, well, all it takes is a few bills in congress.



This is wrong as well...Amazon has not canceled "merchant contracts", California merchants that sale on Amazon are already required to charge California residents sales tax. Just like California businesses on eBay have to charge California residents sales tax. Amazon shut-down their California affiliates.

California isn't the first state to do this....
I'm not going to waste my time with you on this ... come back when you either you get educated on what you say or stop trying to BS the board.
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I am from a blue city in Texas. The Democrats in Houston and actually all across Texas are completely different...the state of Texas was never run into the ground by the Democrats. You guys want to put down Houston and Texas as a whole for standing strong in these crushing economic times....do you know why they are standing strong? The Democrats in Texas are not idiots. They don't allow decisions that would run the state into the ground.
Umm.........no:


Texas Governor Rick Perry Is Furious Over Tax Move That Forced Amazon To Leave The State
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I'm not going to waste my time with you on this ...
That's fine, yet, everything you said is still wrong.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:08 AM
 
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What exactly are you asking? Where are consumers going to purchase products if they are forced to pay sales tax on things they purchase online? Umm....where they shop right now?


...they will purchase where the price is lowest.

...doesn't matter whether it's a different zip code, a different state, or a different country... ...whether the producer has "child labour laws", "universal health care", or "environmental protection laws".

...producers now compete for consumers directly internationally.

Everyone's local harbinger was the complete success of "WalMart"...crud from the 3rd world, but it's cheap, and for some it's more than they could have bought in any other time.

The retort is to propose tariffs. I am uncertain whether these would really work in this age of America. I believe our heterogeneity would make this unpalatable. ...no, I think the days of low and moderate level manufacturing and sales, and the tax base they allow, are numbered.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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...producers now compete for consumers directly internationally.
We are talking about retail and the cost to ship products internationally is far greater than anything you'd pay in sales tax. Furthermore, there is the issue of duties which again increases costs.

Anyhow, I'm not really sure what you are trying to claim....
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:16 AM
 
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This may be considered a blog, but the reach for the data is contained in it.

Is California still the startup capital of the U.S.? | California Watch


Yeah, I kind of thought that was your source.

It's really not that great... In fact, it's actually minimally supportive.


Five of the top ten zips across the nation? Think of how small a data set that actually provides for the representative states. I'm just frustrated that this kind of data, extensive amounts actually, should be easily available.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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Thanks I have to admit I was not even aware of this ...however Susan Combs is a Republican.

I guarantee a Democrat comptroller in Texas would not have done that to Texas.

I am actually surprised a Republican would pull that on Texas!

But it looks like ole slick Rick is going to do something about it! Who is going to do anything about it in California?

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Old 07-10-2011, 01:22 AM
 
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We are talking about retail and the cost to ship products internationally is far greater than anything you'd pay in sales tax. Furthermore, there is the issue of duties which again increases costs.

Anyhow, I'm not really sure what you are trying to claim....




I hope you feign ignorance.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I hope you feign ignorance.
Nope, as I said, I really don't know what you're trying to claim in relation to the topic being discussed.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I guarantee a Democrat comptroller in Texas would not have done that to Texas.
Right because the Democrats in Texas are magical people where as the Democrats in California are all evil trolls....

So, when ya moving back to Texas again?
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