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Old 08-13-2011, 09:27 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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I do not believe the creativity found in Texas industries such as oil or energy would be or could be done in California. California is primarily Mexicans

The oil industry is in California and is a very strong economic force in the state, and California has every racial group known to mankind latino's in California are from every Country in Central and South America.


due to its location. The rest of California is just crummy WalMart style box stores with minimum wage jobs. Without Hollywood and the gold rush, California would be destitute.

Los Angeles has the 3Rd highest GDP in the World right behind Toyko and New York City and the San Francisco Bay is a economic powerhouse. If California was a Country instead of a State it would be the 8Th most powerful and Richest Nation in the WORLD and TEXAS would be the 10Th.

There is a culture and way of thinking that comes with a Texas Medical Center or an Energy Capital of the country and arguably the world that California would not, could not and will never comprehend. Energy, NASA, Silicon Hill and Silicon Prairie, none of this would exist if California ruled the world.

I keep telling you that California has BIG OIL as well as NASA and something to trump Silicon Hill and Prairie ( Silicon Valley ) San Jose.

And that creative way of thinking is something California would destroy or label as heretic. Ever see Battle: Los Angeles? That's how I see a fully realized California

It will never happen...Sorry!!!!!

Your logic is immature and you have made California look like a pretentious land of fart-sniffing yuppies similar to what South Park portrayed. I, in no way, resent California and respect every state for what it is. I cannot understand why on earth you discredit the arts in Houston, the medical, and aerospace industries. The technology industries in Dallas and Austin, and the fact that Texas ties with California in the amount of fortune 500 companies. You boast about Apple and Google as if NASA wasn't in Houston. Which, to me, is a much more respectable facility to have in your state. While Apple and Google are good for jobs and your self-esteem, they are just companies, which could pick up and move at any time. I suppose minimum wage jobs are only for Texans? Who serves your coffee at your favorite, overpriced, "boutique" coffee shop? Someone who gets paid minimum wage. You need to open your eyes and realize the country is much larger than California and Apple. Good god, if it were strictly for you, I would NEVER move to California.

Good day, to Californians, and Texans as well.


The vast majority of Californian never even think about Texas , unless if they are thinking of moving there because the cost of living in California is too expensive and they finally throw in the towel.
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:31 PM
 
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Annie, you want me to reply to that? Okay, I discredit them. I don't there's any comparison. But if it will keep Texans in Texas, I will say they are incredible and everyone should move there immediately.
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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The vast majority of Californian never even think about Texas , unless if they are thinking of moving there because the cost of living in California is too expensive and they finally throw in the towel.
You should read my earlier post. I was not being 100% serious. Vice versa, we don't think about California.

Texas has just as many varying races of Hispanics as well.

I'm not discrediting California at all. I know its a powerhouse. You never told me anything about California's oil industry, in fact that was the first time I mentioned it. Again, I know all about the beloved Silicon Valley, I just don't understand the discredit Texas gets. The animosity is remarkably childish for grown men to be bickering over. We all say the same Pledge of Allegiance and answer to the same horrible Federal Government.

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Annie, you want me to reply to that? Okay, I discredit them. I don't there's any comparison. But if it will keep Texans in Texas, I will say they are incredible and everyone should move there immediately.
Keep Texans in Texas? Ha, like we have a reason to move to California in droves. Seriously, what on earth are you talking about?

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Old 08-13-2011, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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You'll forgive me? Seriously? Who are you? Jifie, I'm not seeking answers. And if you think this topic is not allowed to be revisited, then why are you quoting one of my responses in the Texas forum? I don't mind it, feel free.
He believes that he some how established that Texas has a thriving and innovative tech economy, but he just doesn't understand tech.

Anyhow, "Wal-mart" jobs is of course an exaggeration, but the vast majority of the tech work done in Texas is basically grunt work...
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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He believes that he some how established that Texas has a thriving and innovative tech economy, but he just doesn't understand tech.

Anyhow, "Wal-mart" jobs is of course an exaggeration, but the vast majority of the tech work done in Texas is basically grunt work...
California is the best at everything, even arrogance.
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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California is the best at everything, even arrogance.
You guys keep doing this, its odd, just because California has a larger, more innovative, more entrepreneur centric, etc economy than Texas doesn't mean its the "best at everything" or better than every other state.
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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You guys keep doing this, its odd, just because California has a larger, more innovative, more entrepreneur centric, etc economy than Texas doesn't mean its the "best at everything" or better than every other state.
Really? You could have fooled me.
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Old 08-14-2011, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Really? You could have fooled me.
Really what?
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Old 08-14-2011, 03:46 AM
 
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Well, it's clear one thing y'all seem to prefer there that I don't, is "drama" (...LOL)! That and the obvious southern habit of "intolerance" for differing opinions. And that's not even counting differing attitudes re: things like religion, gender, or race... or do I really need to cite a few graphic "examples" (hint: Confederate flags, the KKK, and lotsa stuff like this)?! And yeah, to me they are horrible values (aren't they to you?). But even if you never leave Asheville, or "southern culture" just works for you, fine, and I'm sure there's a lot of things about California that you don't like either (although I am surprised you seem to prefer to hang out at this particular forum).

But still not sure how you think that differences in local culture are simply "every little thing". Or perhaps you haven't noticed all the strong "discussions" here re: TX vs "socialist" CA, OK vs "gay" CA, Misouri vs "liberal" CA, etc..... or maybe you think the label, "the land of fruits & nuts" has nothing to do with culture, and is just a "compliment" outsiders give to Cali's "scenery" and "weather"!
Man, you are a piece of work. Are you always this aggressive in pigeonholing other posters' priorities?

Please explain to me what "drama" you found in either of my posts. What I objected to, is your distorted reading of my initial post which was pretty innocuous. In one fell swoop, you told me I didn't seem to care about anything except taxes and scenery.

You said:
"Yeah, but sounds like the scenery and affordability are your only priorities and that the rest, including things like the local culture, amenities, religious, social & political values, etc. are either unimportant, or you just assume they're pretty much the same everywhere (which of course, they're not)!

For example, both TX and the Carolinas both have some very scenic and affordable areas, but when I think of the local "culture" and "values", you couldn't pay me enough to live there!"

A polite person would have asked me how I felt about those things and whether I weighed them, instead of ASSUMING they didn't enter into my decision making.

I chose to focus on taxes, housing, and scenery because I didn't want to make sweeping generalizations about any state when it comes to the subjects you raised. The fact is, while Texas might be more conservative as a whole, Austin, Texas is going to be more liberal than Orange County, California. As I stated, it's going to come down to what town/city you're looking at.

Just because a person addresses a couple of things doesn't give you a reason to make assumptions about the rest of their priorities. My post was long enough without getting into every thought I have on the subject.

But you seem to have no problem with making sweeping statements. For instance, you put up a link to the Southern Poverty Law Center with a list of hate crimes reported in North Carolina. And that was supposed to be your evidence on why a person would want to avoid living there.

And yet, you ignored the list of hate crimes for California, which has the highest number in the entire nation.

CALIFORNIA: Hate Incidents | Southern Poverty Law Center

North Carolina had 66 hate crimes listed, and most of them were intimidation incidents. There was not one murder.

California had 482 hate crimes listed, and they aren't kidding around there. There are several murders listed, as well as the stuff of nightmares ... bashing someone's skull in, stabbings, killing goats and putting them on church property ... gang assaults, Aryan Nation, skin heads, Neo-Nazis, etc ... and yes, the KKK. Californians seem to be more creative in expressing hate.

And yet you want to bring up the KKK and the Confederate flag as reasons to avoid North Carolina? In light of the report that you so graciously linked to, I don't think you can point a finger at NC with a straight face, considering what goes down in CA.

And by the way, it's not like you see the Confederate flag plastered everywhere in NC. It's generally a few backwoods types who display it.

You also don't seem to know much about North Carolina or Asheville. NC is not a red state or a blue state when it comes to elections. It's considered a purple state because it is a swing state. Most of the governors of NC have been Democrats. Obama won in North Carolina.

I myself am a Libertarian, but I like that NC isn't dominated by either major party.

And now Asheville. You didn't provide any information on what is supposed to be wrong with Asheville, except the one listing of the 15-year-old idiot who assaulted gays.

Let me enlighten you. Such an incident is almost unheard of considering that Asheville is KNOWN for it's large lesbian and gay population. Asheville is a quirky small city filled with artists, artisans, musicians, writers, hippies, and about 250 independent farm-to-table restaurants, organic produce galore, as well as national forests, mountains, the Blue Ridge Parkway, etc ... Matter of fact, when Robert Redford made a movie there, he loved the place. So do other celebrities.

But you wouldn't know that because to you, NC is full of confederate flags, the KKK, and issues with religion, gender and race. And yet, there is that pesky list of hate crimes for CA that makes NC hate crimes look like child's play.

Just overlook the fact that NC has the Research Triangle Park, some decent schools and thriving cities. Oh, and their state government is doing pretty good with fiscal matters in spite of the economy. The taxpayers won't be saddled with endless debt.

ALL of these things have influenced my interest in moving there. I would have been happy to elaborate more if you had been nice enough to ask in the first place, instead of accusing me of nonsense.

And lastly, I do not "hang out" on the California forum. That's just another of your sweeping statements. I was scrolling down all the forums and saw this discussion. I started reading it because I lived in Texas for 17 years.

I really hope that you and your aggressive attitude are not representative of the majority of Californians.

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Old 08-14-2011, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Behind you
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Just a side note, I've seen the confederate flag hanging off a porch in Hoensbroek, Holland...
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