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Old 09-24-2011, 07:29 PM
 
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A poster in another thread wrote (snarkily) that she could tell I "wasn't a 'native' Californian". This amused me quite a bit. It's true: I'm not. But when I asked for an explanation of what identified me as an "alien", she wouldn't respond. (She, herself, is also NOT a 'native' Californian.) Now, I have been a resident of California at times since 1966, when I was 17. Though I have maintained other residences in Washington and Hawaii, -- including what I consider my primary in WA -- I have had seven (7) different residences in the Bay Area, San Joaquin Valley, and SoCal over the past 45 years. Not P.O. boxes -- actual physical residences with doors and windows and such

Okay ... I was born in the mid-west, but my oldest child was born in California -- yet only lived there as a baby -- not since. So the kid is a "native-born Californian", I am not. What would identify her as such? Anybody think they can identify a "native" just by some quality of birth? Heh. Ok, obviously not. But can any of you readers, whether native-born or not, define a "native Californian", at all?

Just how would one identify unique similarities of -- say: a "native" rancher near Yreka, a "native" "medical" marijuana grower in Humbolt, a "native" gay-rights activist in the Bay, a "native" fisherman out of Monterey, a "native" farmer in the San Joaquin Valley, a "native" stage carpenter in Hollywood, a "native" desert rat hanging on out at the Salton Sea, a "native" retired Marine in San Diego?
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:37 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Ha, Null, Now, my southern relatives say they can tell a Californian by their accent, apparently we drop our consonant endings or somthin.

So few Californians were born in this state it is easy to take one of them foreigners for a Californian.

If you ask a native Nevadan to describe a Californian they are likely to say all Californians are gay, wear lycra and polyester fibers, drive pickups other than Ford #1 and Chevy #2, or drive cars that aren't just plain ole Detroit four door seedans, ride mountain bikes and drink foo foo coffee.

So I guess, you just look around and see if anyone fits that description.
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:46 PM
 
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Ha, Null, Now, my southern relatives say they can tell a Californian by their accent, apparently we drop our consonant endings or somthin.

So few Californians were born in this state it is easy to take one of them foreigners for a Californian.

If you ask a native Nevadan to describe a Californian they are likely to say all Californians are gay, wear lycra and polyester fibers, drive pickups other than Ford #1 and Chevy #2, or drive cars that aren't just plain ole Detroit four door seedans, ride mountain bikes and drink foo foo coffee.

So I guess, you just look around and see if anyone fits that description.
Can I look in Yreka? How about OC?
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Old 09-24-2011, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Placerville
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Easy. Aliens complain about the taxes being too high, 'dem libralz, blame the cost of living, California's unemployment rate, poverty and every other social problem on regulations, then turn around and say California should follow Texas as an example.
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Old 09-24-2011, 10:14 PM
 
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Your family belongs to one of these tribes. Otherwise you're just another person who's mom/dad or grandad or maybe greatgrandaddy
came out here from wherever, whenever they did
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Old 09-24-2011, 10:21 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Can I look in Yreka? How about OC?
Yreka is a fine little town, I set my personal record for sitting on an onramp hoping for a ride there, back in 1974 or 5, took me 13 hours to catch a ride, darned hicks, my kinda people.

OC? Whooeee, I drove through there two weeks ago on my way to the Marine Base.. Are there Native Californians there? Native Californians are pretty smart, I hope most of them bailed out of there years ago, when there was still vacant land lying between Camp Pendleton and Anaheim.

As Jerry Jeff said,
"If I could just get off this L A Freeway before I get killed or caught
Down the road in a cloud of smoke toward some land that I ain't bought
yet.
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Your family belongs to one of these tribes. Otherwise you're just another person who's mom/dad or grandad or maybe greatgrandaddy
came out here from wherever, whenever they did
Native Californian isn't the same as Native American - different definition.

I'm a fifth generation Californian, so I qualify as a native, even if my great-great-great-grandparents did start life in Northern Europe - they came to California back in the 1800's - long enough for me to feel quite comfortable calling myself a native Californian!

As for being able to tell if someone is a native or not, if you're outside of the big cities - LA, San Diego, and San Francisco - then most of the younger people you meet will be natives - their parents or grandparents may have come from elsewhere, but they were born here.

And the closer you get to the bigger cities, the more non-natives of all ages you'll find.

You'll also find people like my cousin - who was born in another state, but has come back to California to live as an adult. All of her family on both sides, going back many generations, was born here - except for her - so is she a native, or not?
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Can you tell a 'Native" Californian from an 'Alien'?
Never tried to figure it out.

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Old 09-25-2011, 12:57 AM
 
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Alien: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qcr6zkRAp8...0/alien-10.jpg

California native: Gallery
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Being a native is no big deal. If you're truly special you qualify to join this group:

The Society of California Pioneers
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