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Old 10-11-2011, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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.. And that occurs by technology determining what is 'skilled' and 'unskilled' by the flip of a light switch.
Your not getting the point, in the not so distance future all people will be deemed "unskilled" in relation to what artificial beings can do..... There will be nothing that people do better.....


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Funny.... the progression of technology is what it is and has been for some time .. and has made society progress a great deal and become better as a result. People move on to other tasks...
Until there are no longer any "other tasks" to move onto...

 
Old 10-12-2011, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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... You, again, and again, reduce human value to financial contribution. ...
I don't understand; you say this as if it were a bad thing.

But more precisely, of course, the value of a human is the net present value of his/her future contributions minus the costs of keeping him/her alive.
 
Old 10-12-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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... define "getting ahead" ... it means "ahead of others" ... talk about not understanding modeling and scale ... not everyone can get ahead of everyone else ...
True. The overall standard of living of the USA can be ahead, equal to, or behind other nations.

Which do you want for the USA?
 
Old 10-12-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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I don't understand; you say this as if it were a bad thing.

But more precisely, of course, the value of a human is the net present value of his/her future contributions minus the costs of keeping him/her alive.
Perfect, Sport ... nice sentiment. I'll quote you this coming Nov. 11th when, as is my annual habit, I pause to remember those I still dream about, who I left behind 1966 - 1968, and all like them from all our wars. I'm sure their families will be at peace finally to realize that they no longer have to value their lost sons and daughters -- as the fallen have no "future contributions" to make and no "costs to keep".

You're a peach. Your intellectual and spiritual depth is astounding.
 
Old 10-12-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Perfect, Sport ... nice sentiment. I'll quote you this coming Nov. 11th when, as is my annual habit, I pause to remember those I still dream about, who I left behind 1966 - 1968, and all like them from all our wars. I'm sure their families will be at peace finally to realize that they no longer have to value their lost sons and daughters -- as the fallen have no "future contributions" to make and no "costs to keep".

You're a peach. Your intellectual and spiritual depth is astounding.
Right there with you (1966-1969) and make the same pause for the same reasons. Never realized it was an act of futility. So glad SportyandMisty cleared that up for me.
 
Old 10-12-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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True. The overall standard of living of the USA can be ahead, equal to, or behind other nations.

Which do you want for the USA?
Well sir, the question you pose has no relation to the statement I made ... the statement I made was in response to the proposition that "everyone" in America should be focused on trying to get "ahead" generically of everyone else in America ... a nonsensical concept. More basically nonsensical even than the notion that humanity should approach life like a high school football game: a jingoistic competition against ourselves to see who wins the most toys while performing the least functions. I realize that is about the limit of your mentality, however.
 
Old 10-12-2011, 10:33 AM
 
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Right there with you (1966-1969) and make the same pause for the same reasons. Never realized it was an act of futility. So glad SportyandMisty cleared that up for me.
See you in Nov., Chief ... day of truce, thought, and reflection.
 
Old 10-12-2011, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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What is the significance of November?
 
Old 10-12-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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What is the significance of November?
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