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[RedJacket]

California Gov. Jerry Brown is vetoing legislation requiring police to obtain a court warrant to search the mobile phones of suspects at the time of any arrest. The Sunday veto means that when police arrest anybody in the Golden State, they may search that person’s mobile phone — which in the digital age likely means the contents of persons’ e-mail, call records, text messages, photos, banking activity, cloud-storage services, and even where the phone has traveled.

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[Twinkle Toes]

Moral of the story ... don't have a cell phone.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Twinkle Toes

Moral of the story ... don't have a cell phone.

...or don't commit a crime!

[KC6ZLV]

password protect your phone

[Twinkle Toes]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

...or don't commit a crime!

Yeah ... then there's that.



But, even if you don't commit a crime, are a person of interest or a suspect, you are subject to the violation of your 4th and 14th amendment rights.

[Fontucky]

The far Left and its Governor Moonbeam types are supposed to be the guardian of our rights... riiiight?

Unless:

"Brown’s veto also shores up support with police unions and the Peace Officers Research Association of California, a police union that opposed the legislation and recently donated $38,900 to Brown’s campaign coffers. "

and

"In the last year alone, at least seven police unions donated more than $12,900 each to Brown. Those unions, including the California Association of Highway Patrolmen and the Sacramento County Deputy Sheriff’s Association, had given Brown more than $160,000 in combined contributions."

because

"That support would be key if Brown decides to seek a second term."

[Bulldogdad]

Password lock your phone people. Its a safety measure you should use always. You are more at risk of some thief using your personal info against you if you lose your phone than the police doing a warrantless search.

Besides that you can tell the PoPo to **** off and get a warrant if your phone is locked. Then they will need to brute force it open which brings their search into the light of day legally.

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by Bulldogdad

Password lock your phone people. Its a safety measure you should use always. You are more at risk of some thief using your personal info against you if you lose your phone than the police doing a warrantless search.

Besides that you can tell the PoPo to **** off and get a warrant if your phone is locked. Then they will need to brute force it open which brings their search into the light of day legally.

Dawg ... you sound mighty savvy regarding the police and legal precedents and limits and liabilities ... I am going to the post office today, as is my oft habit ... have mailings to get out ... gimme a couple more hints ... I want to narrow down my search of the various "photos" on the P.O. bulletin board ... see if I can guess which one is you ... I have a picture already in my mind, but you know, I want to get past the hanging, slobbery jowls and lower teeth protruding upwards out over the lips ... and, of course, the smashed nose and spiked collar ...

Crunchy Ted

[Bulldogdad]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Dawg ... you sound mighty savvy regarding the police and legal precedents and limits and liabilities ... I am going to the post office today, as is my oft habit ... have mailings to get out ... gimme a couple more hints ... I want to narrow down my search of the various "photos" on the P.O. bulletin board ... see if I can guess which one is you ... I have a picture already in my mind, but you know, I want to get past the hanging, slobbery jowls and lower teeth protruding upwards out over the lips ... and, of course, the smashed nose and spiked collar ...

Crunchy Ted

Having worked in law enforcement and private corporate security for many years before my current profession, I learned the biggest asset any citizen has is to be silent and lock everything down.

There are going to be people popping in to say that Law Enforcement can hot sink your smart phone around your security password. That is true but at that point it becomes a brute force search similar to busting down your door on a no knock warrant.

The nothing to hide crowd is full of crapola. I used to be in that camp but after observing many abuses my fellow LEO's and security colleagues committed I decidedly changed my mind.

Law enforcement has a job to do. Your job is to identify yourself and ask for counsel. Never ever ever talk to the police without representation.

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by Bulldogdad

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Law enforcement has a job to do. Your job is to identify yourself and ask for counsel. Never ever ever talk to the police without representation.

Yep. No joke. Plenty stories. None of 'em good.