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Old 11-20-2011, 02:12 AM
 
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Meanwhile, students across UC campuses are holding rallies to protest the tuition increase for again. I've forgotten how many times the tuition increased in the last 3 years.

Let's look at the larger picture:

Why is it that in the face of budget cuts, the administration faculty and those sitting in the upper tier of UC and Cal State universities get to maintain their salary and benefits, while professors and academic programs that have direct impact on the students' public education are seeing cuts, furloughs, and reduction in salary? Our state government is spending much more on prison than on education. It's a shame that governor Brown signed the California Dream Act.

Our government officials and the administrators at our California universities better get to responsible governing because eventually the people, they are supposed to serve are going to get fed up.
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Old 11-20-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: California
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Uggh. I have one who is done and another who has two more years to go. He's in CC now and has his transfer classes done but wants an actual AA Degree too. The biggest problem is there is nobody there for him to talk to about anything, he's just following the "requirements to graduate" on his own. According to our calculations he is 1 unit shy of getting an AA Degree. He's tried to see a counselor to make sure he's on track and to verify this but they told him one that unless he's a veteran they aren't taking apts right now. His friend is on academic probation and getting financial aid and has a preset apt with a counselor every semester! I don't know what the average B student who is paying full price to go to school gets anymore, the only counseling he ever got was when he was still in high school and someone came to the school to give kids info on placement testing. He's just going to submit the petition to graduate, take a 1 unit online class next semester, and see what happens. Then if he decides on a 4 yr or some other program of study maybe he can get info direcetly from them ::fingers crossed::.

It's not like it's hard to figure it out how to graduate, but for someone who is questioning what he wants to do next it would be nice for a professional to give him some guidance.
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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He's tried to see a counselor to make sure he's on track and to verify this but they told him one that unless he's a veteran they aren't taking apts right now.
That is really disturbing. And they're turning away transfer students to the Cal State schools by the hundreds. When you think that California used to lead the country in higher education with its Master Plan of 1960 for the UC and Cal State systems, it's really disheartening to see where we are now.
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Old 11-23-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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Revenues always decline during a recession. So a big part of the problem is that there's not as much revenue going to the state government, especially because CA relies on sales taxes, residential property taxes, and personal income taxes more than it relies on business and nonresidential property taxes-the former being less stable and more variable sources of revenue.

Another thing, more directly related to education, is that the cost of university research has grown a lot, even as federal aid to universities for research has declined. And the universities, in addition to spending a lot on administrative support and research, are also spending a lot on other things like faculty salaries, student counseling, and library materials.

But perhaps the biggest thing is that public universities are competing with each other and with private universities for the best college rankings, the best resources, etc. They have to recoup all those costs somehow.

Hence, college tuition keep rising more and more.
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Old 11-23-2011, 04:51 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Uggh. I have one who is done and another who has two more years to go. He's in CC now and has his transfer classes done but wants an actual AA Degree too. The biggest problem is there is nobody there for him to talk to about anything, he's just following the "requirements to graduate" on his own. According to our calculations he is 1 unit shy of getting an AA Degree. He's tried to see a counselor to make sure he's on track and to verify this but they told him one that unless he's a veteran they aren't taking apts right now. His friend is on academic probation and getting financial aid and has a preset apt with a counselor every semester! I don't know what the average B student who is paying full price to go to school gets anymore, the only counseling he ever got was when he was still in high school and someone came to the school to give kids info on placement testing. He's just going to submit the petition to graduate, take a 1 unit online class next semester, and see what happens. Then if he decides on a 4 yr or some other program of study maybe he can get info direcetly from them ::fingers crossed::.

It's not like it's hard to figure it out how to graduate, but for someone who is questioning what he wants to do next it would be nice for a professional to give him some guidance.
You don't even want to know how many extra classes I took because of the clueless Counselor that said I had to. Get yours to pick a major and then talk to the grad students who were in that same major. Most Colleges have this available (student Counselor not one of these tenured sloths).
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