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Old 11-21-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: South Korea
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Who cares how they were sitting, they were breaking the law.

 
Old 11-21-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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And finally, your attempt at equating moral authority with an 'A Priori' act of moral depravity [of the first order], lynching, is not even specious ... it is an obvious attempt to ridicule me ... for which you would need to be an actually mature and worldly, experienced individual with more than mere classroom education. The concept -- and reality -- of moral authority is based on self-evident, common-sense social behaviors.
Spare me - the point is that morality is subjective - and that moral authority is also subjective. What is moral or immoral for you may not be for someone else.

You don't get to define morality for everyone else. That is exactly why the law applies to everyone equally - because people like you believe the law should apply differently depending upon who it is applied to (you just said as much when you told us all what is and is not moral - as though you have that authority).
 
Old 11-21-2011, 04:16 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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What did these students think would happen when the state fattens those hefty state employee pensions, appease illegal immigration, pass the California dream act, etc..
 
Old 11-21-2011, 04:23 PM
 
Location: SW King County, WA
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By interlocking their arms, they weren't planning on complying with the arresting officer, were they? They knew what was going to happen, and they wanted to make it difficult for the cops - maybe they were hoping something like this wold happen, martyr themselves, get some good P.R...
Welp, it sure worked. Looks like that idiot, power-tripping rent-a-cop is gonna lose his overpaying job. +1 for the good guys. Keep up the good work!
 
Old 11-21-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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Welp, it sure worked. Looks like that idiot, power-tripping rent-a-cop is gonna lose his overpaying job. +1 for the good guys. Keep up the good work!
Going to lose his job? The university will probably lose a lawsuit if they fire him.
 
Old 11-21-2011, 04:42 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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By interlocking their arms, they weren't planning on complying with the arresting officer, were they? They knew what was going to happen, and they wanted to make it difficult for the cops - maybe they were hoping something like this wold happen, martyr themselves, get some good P.R...
Or maybe they were simply making a statement using non-confrontational, non-violent civil disobedience. Under those circumstances it was a peaceful gathering seeking redress for grievances; i.e. tuition hikes. If you ever read it, you might find some mention of that in a dusty, obscure document called The Constitution.

There are better ways to deal with a situation like that than O.C. spray, especially when applied injudiciously, at dangerously close range and repeatedly to the point of saturation. That's called "overkill." Had they wanted to merely break up the circle of intertwined students there are simple, pain-compliance pressure holds that would have loosened their grips on one another to allow them to be separated. They do no damage whatsoever and the pain stops immediately upon release. Hell, I've been out of the cop business for over 20 years now and I remember how to apply them.
 
Old 11-21-2011, 04:47 PM
 
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Shame on the Wobblies, both way back when and now.

Bunch of Commie rats.
 
Old 11-21-2011, 04:51 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Welp, it sure worked. Looks like that idiot, power-tripping rent-a-cop is gonna lose his overpaying job. +1 for the good guys. Keep up the good work!
Only of he violated policy. If not, the police union will most certainly be filing a lawsuit for wrongful termination. Until the investigation is completete he's sitting at home on paid administrative leave.
 
Old 11-21-2011, 05:34 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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What did these students think would happen when the state fattens those hefty state employee pensions, appease illegal immigration, pass the California dream act, etc..

Oh, and don't forget the taliban and global warming too.... sheesh.

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Welp, it sure worked. Looks like that idiot, power-tripping rent-a-cop is gonna lose his overpaying job. +1 for the good guys. Keep up the good work!

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Or maybe they were simply making a statement using non-confrontational, non-violent civil disobedience. Under those circumstances it was a peaceful gathering seeking redress for grievances; i.e. tuition hikes. If you ever read it, you might find some mention of that in a dusty, obscure document called The Constitution.
Startlingly amazing that there are those who only approve of the Constitution when they agree with it.

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Shame on the Wobblies, both way back when and now.

Bunch of Commie rats.
Since you are an intelligent fellow, we know this is just an attempt to get somebody here riled up.

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Only of he violated policy. If not, the police union will most certainly be filing a lawsuit for wrongful termination. Until the investigation is completete he's sitting at home on paid administrative leave.
Doubt the police union or anyone sane is going to come to his defense. Be like coming to Sandusky's defense. Spraying UC Davis Aggies with pepper spray? sheesh.
 
Old 11-21-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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You can see that most of the cops in the video are obese (bad cop, no donut!) so perhaps pepper spray was their only means to enforce what they wanted without having heart attacks.
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