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Old 11-21-2011, 08:45 PM
 
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Actually whats happening here is some players of one team are beating up on their own fans seated in the stands.
Well, actually, those aren't team players you're talking about ... they are leeches that have attached themselves ... completely unwanted bloodsuckers. I understand the frustration of appearances.
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Its been a long month over here and Im fatigued by the sight of cops and protesters alike.
Yep

 
Old 11-21-2011, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Northern MN
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It is satire.
These kids have it sosooo easy and if some pepper spray is used on them it is now a big national story?
Sorry ,but some kids just got some pepper spray not tear gas, (cn or cs) they were not struck with a night stick.
Where were the police with the fire hoses, they could have done some cleaning of the sidewalks.

Yea, these kids are lucky they didn't go to ken state.
And you got my point.

They were in the wrong and refusing a lawful order what should the police have done?
Given them a participation award?
Called their moms?

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Originally Posted by 04kL4nD View Post
Is that supposed to be funny?

Innocent people were MURDERED at Kent State...
 
Old 11-21-2011, 08:51 PM
 
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UC Davis chancellor calls for task force to review pepper spraying of protesters - Yolo County News - sacbee.com (http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/19/4066778/uc-davis-chancellor-calls-for.html#storylink=omni_popular - broken link)


Raw Footage Of UC Davis Peaceful Protesters Pepper Sprayed - YouTube

So let me get this straight, a peaceful protest of the tuition fee hike by sitting on the sidewalk to block the path actually warrants being pepper sprayed in the face by the police? The students blocking the sidewalk posed NO threat to the police.

It's very alarming that Chancellor Katehi defended the actions of the campus police, then caved into launching a full investigation by an outside reviewer. What a shame. The chancellor is supposed to protect the students, not attack them.
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Shame on you for posting this cr3p! You must be a law breaker too? When police say to............ disperse...........several times and the people ignore that order, what are police to do? Use night sticks, bullets? OWS was wrong and continue to be WRONG! They have sites for OWS to train them how to irritate and not listen to the law. OWS are idiots, even if it is college students. Wait for my next post about OWS people. Scum.
 
Old 11-21-2011, 08:55 PM
 
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Default 175 incidencies in Oct only! what isn't reported?

1.NY: 10/1/2011 — Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge
2.Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 — Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public M@sturbation
3.Phoenix: 10/28/2011 — Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, “When Should You Shoot a Cop?”
4.NY: 10/18/2011 — Thieves Preying on Fellow Protesters
5.NY: 10/9/2011 — Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CAR
6.NY: 10/7/2011 — Occupiers Rush Police … More
7.Cleveland: 10/18/2011 — ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was R@ped
8.NY: 10/10/2011 — ‘Increasingly Debauched’: Are S@x, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street?
9.Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested
10.10/12/2011 — Iran Supports ‘Occupy Wall Street’
11.Portland: 10/16/2011 – #OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War Dead
12.Portland: 10/15/2011 — #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F*** The USA”
13.Chicago: 10/17/2011 — COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago
14.10/15/2011 — American N@zi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘ Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight ’Judeo-Capitalist Banksters’
15.Boston: 10/14/2011 — Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents
16.Boston: 10/11/2011 — Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy Boston
17.New York: 10/11/2011 — “You Can Have S@x with Animals.”
18.New York: 10/15/2011 — H@r@ssing Police with Accusations of Phony Injuries
19.New York: 10/9/2011 – ‘Occupy Wallstreet’ Protesters Steal from Local Businesses
20.New York: 10/25/2011 — Three Men Threatened to Kill 24-Year-Old Occupy Wall Street Protester for Reporting R@pe
21.Baltimore: 10/18/2011 — #OccupyBaltimore Discourages S@xual @ssault Victims from Contacting Police
22.Portland: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Portland’s Attempt At Wealth Redistribution Ends In Theft
23.Los Angeles: 10/14/2011 – Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street
24.10/27/2011 — A Death Thre@t From an Occupy Wall Street Protester
25.10/27/2011 – Anti-Semitic Tweet From Occupier or Sympathizer



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26.Boston: 10/20/2011 — Occupy Boston Doesn’t Want Police Involved in R@pe
27.New York: 10/5/2011: Anti-Semitic Occupier Screams About Jews, Israel
28.New York: 10/4/2011 — Occupier Taunts Jewish Man
29.Boston: 10/2011 — Occupiers Block Street
30.New York: 10/2011 — Occupier Tries to Steal Police Officer’s Gun
31.New York: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Block Traffic, Get Arrested
32.Oakland: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Throw Garbage at Police
33.Oakland: 10/19/2011 — Abusive #OccupyOakland Protesters Ban Media from Tent City
34.Eugene, OR: 10/19/2011 — Occupiers Displace Farmers’ Market Threatening Hundreds of Jobs
35.Portland, OR: 10/18/2011 — Capitalist Offering Jobs at Occupy Portland Finds Few Takers
36.NY: 10/20/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Threatens Businesses, Patrons
37.NY: 10/14/2011 — Violence Breaks Out During #OccupyWallStreet March Toward Stock Exchange
38.NY: 10/14/2011 — Protesters March On Wall Street, Scuffle With Cops
39.Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Protesters Threaten Reporter
40.Oakland: 10/26/2011 — Occupiers Scuffle with Police
41.Oakland: 10/24/2011 — Protesters Storm, Vandalize, Shut Down Chase Bank
42.Dayton, OH: 10/22/2011 — Protester: ‘F*ck The Military, F*ck Your Flag, And F*ck The Police’
43.Chicago: 10/14/2011 – Protesters’ Message At #OccupyChicago Rally: ‘Destroy Israel’
44.NY: 10/23/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Supporter Rants Against Israel, Jews
45.NY: 10/22/2011 — #Occupy Kid: ‘Burn Wall Street, Burn!’
46.NY: 10/21/2011 — New Yorkers Fed Up With Noisy, Defecating Protesters
47.Oakland: 10/21/2011 — Occupy Oakland Evicted After Reports Of Crime And Intimidation
48.Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Out of Control: Rats, Graffiti, Vandalism, S@xual H@r@ssment, Public S@x and Urination
49.Chicago: 10/26/2011 – Occupiers Under Investigation by FBI for Links to Terrorism
50.Cleveland: 10/29/2011 — R@pe Reported at Occupy Cleveland

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OWS people tell women not to report s#xual @ssualt.
 
Old 11-21-2011, 08:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by snofarmer View Post
It is satire.
These kids have it sosooo easy and if some pepper spray is used on them it is now a big national story?
Sorry ,but some kids just got some pepper spray not tear gas, (cn or cs) they were not struck with a night stick.
Where were the police with the fire hoses, they could have done some cleaning of the sidewalks.

Yea, these kids are lucky they didn't go to ken state.
And you got my point.

They were in the wrong and refusing a lawful order what should the police have done?
Given them a participation award?
Called their moms?
.
I agree, what a bunch of scummy people.
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51.Dal.las: 10/24/2011 — Police Investigating Possible S@xual @ssault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas
52.Bl00mington, IN: 10/26/2011 — Man Claims Occupy Bl00mington Protesters DrUgged, H@ndcuffed Him
53.NY: 10/10/2011 — S@x, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street Protests
54.Glasg.ow: 10/26/2011 — Woman Gang-R@ped
55.Boston: 10/23/2011 — Occupy Boston Protesters Arrested For De@ling Her0in – With 6 Year-Old in Tent
56.Portland: 10/16/2011 – S@x Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as Address
57.Denver: 10/15/2011 — Occupy Denver Demonstrator Accused of Gr0ping TV Ph0t0grapher
58.Lawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 — S@xual @ssault Reported at Occupy Camp
59.Minneapolis, MN: Bricks, Rocks, ‘Ri0t Supplies’ Discovered by Police
60.Phoenix, AZ: 10/27/2011 — Neo-N@zis Patrol “Occupy Phoenix” With A.R-1.5′s


60.Phoe.nix, AZ: 10/27/2011 — Ne0-N@zis Patrol “Occupy Pho.enix” With A.R-1.5′s
62.10/26/2011 — ACORN, Occupy Email Talks About @ssault on Banks
63.10/26/61.Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Chicago Inv@des City Hall
2011 – OccupyWallStreet Str@tegy for Rep0rts of Vi0lence Ag@inst Cops
64.Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Un.repen.tant Dom.estic Ter.ror.ist Bill Ayers Wows Occupiers

 
Old 11-21-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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65.Ch.icago: 10/25/2011 — Aye.rs Co@ches #OccupyChicago, Calls for School ‘Oc.cupations’
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66.10/26/2011/ — Occ.upy P0otests Have Jew.ish Leaders Con.cer.ned
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67.Wash DC: 10/27/2011 – OccupyDC Pr0v0ke Police – H@ng Fl@g on Top of DC Sta.tue
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68.Albu.quer.que, N.M: 10/26/2011 — Occ.upy Squ@tters Ri0t With P0lice
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70.Oakla.nd: 10/25/2011 — Occupiers Thr0w B0ttles at Police
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71.NY: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Protesters: Rush Limbaugh Is Bigger Thre@t Than @l-Q@eda
72.10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Launching First Nationwide General Str.ike in America Since 1946
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73.NY: 10/28/2011 — Fox 5 News Reporter @ssaulted at OWS

74.10/28/2001 — Total Occupy Arrests Made Thus Far: 2750
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75.Na.shville: 10/28/2011 — 30 Arrests Made at Wall St. Protest







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Old 11-21-2011, 09:00 PM
 
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Sane is irrelevant when it comes to deciding morality - sure. 90% of the population could have an opinion on morality that runs counter to yours - you could call them all insane, but it wouldn't make a lick of difference.

Look, MOD CUT, and quickly resort to insults when intellectually outgunned - perhaps you should give up.
Geez you just keeping digging that hole for yourself, don't you (speaking of not being very intelligent) ... "Sane is irrelevant when it comes to deciding morality" huh?

If 90% of the population had an opinion that ran counter to mine, I would check my bearings, and get the hell out. I wouldn't argue my point where it wasn't respected.

Intellectually outgunned? phbbbbt ... kid, I am guessing you are maybe in college ... if you have graduated with a degree, I wonder in what ... hard to imagine. I have BA and MS degrees in arts and sciences, but that is not so much what is significant ... I have depth of proven, worldly experience that enables my educational background to be applied effectively, and socially responsibly to reality. Your comments here, and in other threads, demonstrate that you live in your mind amidst a collection of phrases and syllabi from 101 classrooms. Yeah, my ability with written language alone identifies me as unintelligent, huh ... phbbbt. (BTW: you're welcome for me fixing that pesky spelling of the word "irrelevant" that keeps eluding you.)

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Old 11-21-2011, 09:02 PM
 
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76.NY: 10/20/2011 — Former Marine Tries to T@unt Police into Violence
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77.NY: 1023/2011 — Is!amist Group Joins with Occupy Wall Street
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78.Los Angeles: 10/13/2011 — Roundup of Overt Occupy anti-Semitism
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79.NY: 10/12/2011 — There are No Anti-Semites at Occupy Wall Street. Except for This Guy
80.Missoula, MT: 10/20/2011 — Drunk 11-Year-Old At Occupy Missoula, Adult Arrested
81.Oakland: 10/28/2011 — Bounty Out On Police Officer?
82.Manchester, NH: 10/28/2011 – Woman charged with p!mping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally
83.San D!ego: 10/28/2011 – 40 Occupiers arrested
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84.Boston: 10/24/2011 — Occupy Boston Vandalism of Banks
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85.Boston: 10/25/2011 – Store Owner Suffers 4 Break Ins Since Occupy Boston Began
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86.Portland: 10/28/2011 — Portland Police: Buckets of Excrement Scattered Around #OccupyPortland Camp
87.Seattle: 10/20/2011 — Two Possible Occupiers Charged With @ssault
88.Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Armed FElon Arrested at Occupy Seattle
89.Seattle: 10/18/2011 — A Tent Fight and (At Least) One Arrest at Occupy Seattle
90.Seattle: 10/17/2011 — Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight Arrests
91.Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Cops Arrest Several Occupy Protesters
92.Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Chanting Protesters Surround Police After Officers Arrest Two
93.Denver: 10/29/2011 — Protesters Clash with Police at OWS Denver
94.Austin: 10/13/2011 – Occupy Austin protesters arrested for blocking cleaning Crews
95.Calgary, CN: 10/28/2011 — Occupiers do $40,000 in Property Damage
96.Cincinnati, OH: 10/21/2011 — 23 Arrested, Remains of protests fill two dumpsters
97.Sacramento: 10/19/2011 – 9 arrested in ‘Occupy Sacramento’ protest
98.Sacramento: 10/13/2011 – Four More Occupy Sacramento Demonstrators Arrested
99.Austin, TX: 10/22/2011 – Man Arrested After Knife Incident at Occupy Austin Camp
100.Nashville: 10/29/2011 — Tenn. Protesters Arrested For 2nd Straight Night
 
Old 11-21-2011, 09:08 PM
 
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101.Austin, TX: 10/30/2011 – Austin Police arrest 38 Occupy Austin Protesters
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102.NY: 10/30/2011 — Woman @ssaulted in Her tent
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103.Orlando, FL: 10/28/2011 – Occupy Orlando, police clash over use of downtown park
104.Orlando, FL: 10/26/2011 – 2 Occupy Orlando protesters arrested for tresp@ss
105.Orlando, FL: 10/22/2011 – Police arrest 19 Orlando protesters on tresp@ss charges

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106.A.sheville, NC: 10/30/2011 – Occupiers Clash with Homeless in Asheville

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107.Nationwide: 10/27/2011 — Pro-Occupy Site claims 2511 Arrests Thus Far
108.Fort Worth, TX: 10/16/2011 — Arrests at Occupy Fort Worth Protest

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109.NY: 10/29/2011 — Three Incidents of Anti-Semitism.

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110.San Fran.cis.co: 10/29/2011 — Anti-Semitic, Folsom Street Fair Types & Che Guevara Lovin

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111.Oklahoma City: 10/30/2011 — Death of Street Poet at #OccupyOKC Treated as H0micide

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112.Baltimore: 10/31/2011 — Woman Claims She was R@ped at #OccupyBaltimore

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113.Boston: 10/31/2001 — Alleged Heroin Dealer Joined Occupy Movement

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114.Ottawa: 10/31/2011 — #OccupyOttawa Violent & S@xual @@ssaults Not Reported to Police
115.Santa Barbara, CA: 10/5/2011 — Occupiers Defy Police
116.Santa Barbara, CA: 10/6/2011 — 8 Occupiers Arrested

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117.Denver, CO: 10/31/2011 — Occupiers Taunt Police, Knock Motorcycle Cop to Ground

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118.Dallas, TX: 10/24/2011 — 23 Occupy Dallas Protesters Arrested After Bank Demonstration

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119.Richmond, VA: 10/31/2011 — Arrests of Occupiers in Richmond
120.Dallas, TX: 1v1/1/2011: Man Arrested for Child S@x @ssault at Occupy Dallas Camp

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121.NY: 11/1/2011 — Protesters Flock to STD-Test Clinics After Occupier ‘Free Love’

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122.Iowa: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Intend to Disrupt Iowa Caucus

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123.NY: 11/1/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Costs Main Street Workers Their Jobs

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124.San D!ego: 10/29/2011 — Businesswoman Closes Shop After Thre@ts By Occupiers

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125.Palm Desert, CA: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Arrested

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Why are some people making the OWS to be some kind of saints? If you protest, EXPECT, some problems or even death. OWS are the problem, not the solution.
 
Old 11-21-2011, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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If the believers of many causes find common purpose and declare such, and operate in concert, then they are so connected.
Right....so like I said any protest that occurs now that isn't pushing a conservative agenda is now part of "occupy wall street".


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-- only that the fact serves as verification that there is concern -- thus there is effect already after only 2 months. That said, any even slightly informed person knows that OWS is more than "some hippies protesting in the streets" -- and that the conservative propagandists are not being successful at destroying the ideology --
There is always a "concern", this is just causing a bit more resources to be allocated to this matter. Also, the idea that the wealthy are shaking in their boots about this is just left-wing propaganda being used to try to strengthen the base...

Okay, its not just hippies, its also young liberal arts majors without jobs.

Conservative propaganda is clever, far more clever than that used by the left, they aren't attacking this straight on....they are diluting it and twisting it. They are getting the very people involved and supporting it to change the way they speak of it, indeed, you're doing it here. The broad grouping of all left-leading protests as part of "occupy wall street" is just a strategy to weaken it. In typical fashion conservative propagandist change the wording, the framing, etc and let the liberals destroy themselves.

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refer to both the public sector and the aristocracy, as I don't consider them separate entities / pockets. The wealth concentration of the 1% at the top includes much of the public sector charades.
Of course they are separate pockets, that is why the conservative agenda is always to weaken public programs. The wealth concentration in the top 1% is almost entirely private wealth, not public. Its difficult for private hands to get a lot of public dollars, the only area where that is common is in the military complex and unsurprisingly military spending is largely supported by conservatives.

Also you spoke of them as separate before, furthermore, how exactly is a protest supporting public spending at a public university....then part of a movement that is against wealth?

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Originally Posted by nullgeo View Post
The American worker will benefit some from this when all is said and done, just as the American workers -- all -- benefited from the labor movements of the past.
Firstly, in what way is this a labor movement? Secondly, the American worker isn't going to benefit from this at all....because the movement has already been killed.

The only protest that has a hope of changing anything is one that is explosive, that is, fast and at least partly destructive. With today's media its too easy to manipulate and twist any slow moving movement....

Liberalism is dying in America and not much is going to change that, its just a question of which side of the coin you want to be on...

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