Could Texas Have More People than CA? (employment, quality of life)

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

I'd love to ship 15 million or so to lovely Tejas.

And I vote for shipping double that to Canada ...
In the words that once sparked a revolution: "Let them eat moose!" (or something along those lines it was ... can't recall exact wording)

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

And I vote for shipping double that to Canada ...
In the words that once sparked a revolution: "Let them eat moose!" (or something along those lines it was ... can't recall exact wording)

[CyanideThistles]

Originally Posted by mysticaltyger

Dallas is further south, but it is an extension of the Great Plans, with no Pacific Ocean to warm up the ARctic air that can sweep down on the Plains.

Average January Hi/Lo in Dallas: 57/34
Average January Hi/Lo in San Francisco: 58/46.

Averages don't tell the whole story, either. Dallas has more exteme swings in temperature than NorCal.

My city's averages are highs at 57 in January, and lows at about 38. Not much of a big difference than Dallas.

[rah]

Originally Posted by mysticaltyger

Dallas is further south, but it is an extension of the Great Plans, with no Pacific Ocean to warm up the ARctic air that can sweep down on the Plains.

Average January Hi/Lo in Dallas: 57/34
Average January Hi/Lo in San Francisco: 58/46.

Averages don't tell the whole story, either. Dallas has more exteme swings in temperature than NorCal.

LOL What? SF does not = NorCal. It's a tiny fraction of a percentage of Nor Cal, and even has multiple micro climates within itself. I guarantee you that Northern California has higher temperature extremes than Dallas. Does Dallas have huge mountain ranges with alpine climates, like Nor Cal does? No? Case closed.

You can have below-freezing, snowy, weather in one part of Northern California, and hot weather in another part, at the same time. Does that sound like Dallas to you? Then again, you are attempting to compare one city to an entire region that alone has more geographic and climactic diversity than the entirety of Texas, which is a strange though process, to say the least.

And that dude lives in Santa Rosa, not SF, so your comparison should look more like this:

-Average January Hi/Lo in Dallas: 57/34
-Average January Hi/Lo in Santa Rosa: 58/37

So it's almost the same as Dallas for January.

And if you look at the yearly data, you'll see that Santa Rosa actually has more of a difference between averages than Dallas does:

-Average Hi/Lo in Dallas: 76/57
-Average Hi/Lo in Santa Rosa: 71/44

As far as extremes, Nor Cal certainly beats out Dallas:

Dallas hi/low records: 113/-3
Nor Cal hi/low records: 118/-34 (no official stats as Nor Cal is not a state, just based on my own research)

You'd do better to compare Dallas to individual cities than an entire half of California...and even then Nor Cal has plenty of towns/cities that have very similar extremes, with a few that have higher extremes. Examples:

Weaverville hi/low records: 116/-10
Willits hi/low records: 118/-3
Independence hi/low records: 114/-5
Bishop hi/low records: 112/-8
Yreka hi/low records: 110/-11
Alturas hi/low records: 108/-34
Susanville hi/low records: 106/-23
Mount Shasta hi/low records: 105/-13
Truckee hi/low records: 99/-31
South Lake Tahoe hi/low records: 99/-29
Markleeville hi/low records: 102/-25
Grass Valley hi/low records: 111/-1
Redding hi/low records: 117/7
Ukia hi/low records: 115/10
Chico hi/low records: 117/11
Sonora hi/low records: 113/8
Placerville hi/low records: 110/8
Healdsburg hi/low records: 116/14
Sacramento hi/low records: 114/17
Oakdale hi/low records: 114/12
Santa Rosa hi/low records: 110/16
Auburn hi/low records: 113/16

[hoffdano]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Sure it can happen. Texas is running out of things to brag about that people will believe so largest population will be a nice fit.

Besides, how can you not love living in a state in which the only way to get a ticket for throwing a beer can out the window of your pick-up truck is if it still has beer in it?

Although I usually enjoy your posts, I hope you realize that "Don't Mess with Texas" was one of the most successful anti-litter campaigns ever. And it was a long time ago that "open containers" were banned in moving vehicles. I do know people who miss the old ways.

I wish fewer people would move to Texas. Our unemployment numbers would be better if we have fewer people coming here thinking there are jobs everywhere.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by hoffdano

Although I usually enjoy your posts, I hope you realize that "Don't Mess with Texas" was one of the most successful anti-litter campaigns ever. And it was a long time ago that "open containers" were banned in moving vehicles. I do know people who miss the old ways.

Glad to hear it. But that does leave one burning question. Do the license plates on pick-up trucks still say "Texas Truck?" I mean, do Texans really need to be told they're driving some kind of a truck? Can't they figure that out on their own?

[hoffdano]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Glad to hear it. But that does leave one burning question. Do the license plates on pick-up trucks still say "Texas Truck?" I mean, do Texans really need to be told they're driving some kind of a truck? Can't they figure that out on their own?

I don't think they do. But you are smart enough to know that when they did say "truck" it was simply a registration and license difference. The roots of the popularity of pickup trucks in Texas is ranching and farming. So any vehicle used for those purposes was licensed differently.

It is just like how it was once possible to get a drivers license at 15 for kids who needed to drive for work on their farm and ranch. But you can't do that now.

[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by CyanideThistles

My city's averages are highs at 57 in January, and lows at about 38. Not much of a big difference than Dallas.

Average Temp's are Spin Doctors greatest tool...it get down below ZERO Sometimes In Dallas TX.....

[hoffdano]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

Average Temp's are Spin Doctors greatest tool...it get down below ZERO Sometimes In Dallas TX.....

Averages aren't useless though. The average LOW is pretty telling as is the average HIGH.

Peak values, whether low or high, aren't very meaningful in assessing climate.

[DynamoLA]

In order for Texas to handle more people it's going to have to figure out its water situation. The Edwards Acquifer is shrinking dramatically, and Texas doesn't have the system of aqueducts that CA has to support the number of people (and even CA's water supply is limited).

Maybe they'll be able to go down the desalination road:
Texas drought raises appeal of water desalination | State | News from Fort Worth, Dallas... (http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/01/04/3635479/texas-drought-raises-appeal-of.html - broken link)