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Old 01-19-2012, 04:55 PM
 
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It's great that highly edumacated people are moving in. And lots of uneducated are moving in. The merely educated (HS or Bachelors, or, advanced degree in something impractical) are moving out.

The last part is bad.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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To wit:

In Keystone XL Rejection, We See Two Americas At War With Each Other | Joel Kotkin
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Near L.A.
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It's great that highly edumacated people are moving in. And lots of uneducated are moving in. The merely educated (HS or Bachelors, or, advanced degree in something impractical) are moving out.

The last part is bad.
I'm the bold. If all goes as planned, I'll start a graduate program while working here in CA during the next couple of years. In something practical, too.
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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Interesting article. I think every one, even if their profession is removed from land, should make effort to be able to survive off the land and off the grid, fix own stuff, grow stuff, be good with guns and bow and arrow, etc... and not depend on services and government--nobody knows what's to come in the future. No matter how skilled someone is at some tech occupation.... these skills will not be helpful if the rat tail hits the fan, and everything goes down in flames, riot and civil war and services will not be widely available. A large sector of population is very removed and disconnected from land now. Agriculture is being monopolized right now! With most apartments if Bay area being against medium or big sized dogs... people are unable to have a dog for protection, if they head out camping/hiking, more and more disconnection of "reality" except "cyber urban reality"

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Old 01-21-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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It is my understanding the pipe line was not rejected! Simply the path was!!!!...

A shortcut to save Billionaire oil companies money while endangering precious habitat Just so their execs can get million dollar bonuses, and their political cronies in Washington can get kickbacks.... The alternative route that follows the existing pipeline is what has been suggested, by us "greenies".

I personally get irritated by article that conveniently leave out the facts.... I am not a puppet for the ruling class....
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Old 01-22-2012, 03:40 AM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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More of you need to move to Texas to increase my chances of getting a job in California.
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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The Silicon Valley makes up a very small part of California...and the idea that all the smartest people flock there is just silly...
Many smart people are smart enough to figure out that the cost of living ratios in California are not very good. I think a smart person wanting to raise a family in an affordable, sensible plase would be better off moving to Pittsburgh than Palo Alto.
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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This is just measuring more or less "professional workers"....and yeah it seems that a number of people that left during the housing bubble want to come back now that homes are more affordable.

LA is still packed with young folks from other states chasing highly improbable goals....
great evaluation. It is going to take years for CA to return to it's old self, if it ever does and in the meanwhile young people, as you say still think Ca or Cali as they like to call it is the promise land with streets of gold.

NIta
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:04 PM
 
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Many smart people are smart enough to figure out that the cost of living ratios in California are not very good. I think a smart person wanting to raise a family in an affordable, sensible plase would be better off moving to Pittsburgh than Palo Alto.
Define "sensible" ... Pittsburgh? As in Pennsylvania? ... uh, no ...
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great evaluation. It is going to take years for CA to return to it's old self, if it ever does and in the meanwhile young people, as you say still think Ca or Cali as they like to call it is the promise land with streets of gold.

NIta
Define "old self" ... pre-2007 as in from about 1980 - 2007? ... uh, who in their right mind would think a return to that period of insane growth and development and rape would be desirable?

... pre 1970's or so? ... wishful thinking ...
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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I drove across the Central Valley yesterday, the giant wall of the Sierra Nevada rose over 10,000 feet high in the east, fresh snow made it sparkle like millions of diamonds in the afternoon sun.
Above the valley the great sky stretched from horizon to horizon with masses of drifting white clouds sailing across it like Spanish Galleons with all sails filled.
The green grass and crops spread out as far as I could see, cattle grazed quietly.
I think the reports of California's demise are a bit exaggerated.
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