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Old 01-17-2012, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Interesting.

They both have their points. Isnt most of the piracy coming from China anyway?

Bill Pits Hollywood Against Silicon Valley : NPR
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Old 01-17-2012, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Escondido, CA
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The problem is not piracy, the problem is that the bill would give the Attorney General the power to block any site in the world with minimal oversight. They find a web site they don't like, they get a judge to rubber-stamp the restraining order, they fax this order to Google and to all internet providers in the country, and voila - as far as Americans are concerned, the site does not exist any more. The owner of the web site does not even have a say at that point. (But he's welcome to sue the U.S. government to get his site unblocked...)

Of course, this is supposed to be done only to foreign sites peddling fake Guccis and torrents, but who knows how it is going to work in practice? The whole idea is quite disturbing.
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Old 01-17-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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Oh they are going after piracy... and they're not going after porn? While they're facing destruction of the fabric of their society? Viva China and Ukraine, at least those did step up. Got to love how Google (porn profiter) and Wickipedia blacked out today... who cares... may be they should all stand on SF Bridge and jump off as means of protest?
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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The problem is not piracy, the problem is that the bill would give the Attorney General the power to block any site in the world with minimal oversight. They find a web site they don't like, they get a judge to rubber-stamp the restraining order, they fax this order to Google and to all internet providers in the country, and voila - as far as Americans are concerned, the site does not exist any more. The owner of the web site does not even have a say at that point. (But he's welcome to sue the U.S. government to get his site unblocked...)

Of course, this is supposed to be done only to foreign sites peddling fake Guccis and torrents, but who knows how it is going to work in practice? The whole idea is quite disturbing.
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Yeah, that's why just emailed my opposition to my congressional representative and to Boxer and Feinstein. I also plan on calling tomorrow.
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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Interesting.

They both have their points. Isnt most of the piracy coming from China anyway?

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Divide and conquer?
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:39 PM
 
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Time to kill internet piracy, simply, this issue had demanded attention for a long, long time. Something simply has to be done and this is the only way. There're NO working alternatives to this.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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I like civil rights. The less government intrusion, the better.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:00 PM
 
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I like civil rights. The less government intrusion, the better.
This is good... but then, how do you resolve the massive privacy problem--without government intervention? The only way would be to let involved parties to sort it out with a couple of hand grenades and AK (since courts are helpless here). Government has to step up here.

Also, it is time to ban pornography from the internet, like smart countries did.
As to why China allows piracy of Western media, it is done as a hostile action against the US, I believe, for the same reasons there're dozens of attacks by Chinese hackers against US federal servers every day.

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Old 01-18-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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The purpose of human law is to lead men to virtue, not suddenly, but gradually. Wherefore it does not lay upon the multitude of imperfect men the burdens of those who are already virtuous, viz., that they should abstain from all evil. Otherwise these imperfect ones, being unable to bear such precepts, would break out into yet greater evils...
St. Thomas Aquinas on Tolerance

I can only answer that one with Thomistic thought on the subject.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:59 PM
 
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Oh? ... a serious turn to the forum? ... I'll play ... for one post only:

Banish wisdom, discard knowledge,
And the people will be benefitted a hundredfold.
Banish kindness, discard morality,
And the people will be dutiful and compassionate.
Banish skill, discard profit,
And thieves and robbers will disappear.
As these three touch the externals and are inadequate,
The people have need of what they can depend upon:
To see the simplicity,
To embrace one's uncarved nature,
To cast off selfishness,
And to have few desires.

-- from the Tao te Ching

(for those who may wish to consider the interpretation further, here is a short page to summarize:
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