Partition California into 5 states (Monterey: fit in, area, county)

[.highnlite]

Rather than Jefferson, I suggest Ecotopia, the name used in a novel for a nation covering this landscape. A liberal Hippiedom. much more fun that a bunch of up tight reddies.

Las Vegas is one of the most depressed cities in the nation.

It is certainly one of the most depressing cities in the nation.

[rimmerama]

Not practical at this point. However, certainly not supported by me until the electoral college is disbanded.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Chelito23

The ironic part is that the Southern California Deserts would not go dry. The water comes in from the Colorado River, so by separating coastal California (San Diego, OC, LA) from areas to the east...would be shooting themselves in the foot. There is currently a water tranfer agreement for San Diego from Imperial County. The farmers get priority and cheap water as it come through there first. Then San Diego gets left overs. The result is a very green desert wherever it is populated. People have large shade trees, green lawns...while people in the coastal areas have to conserve what little what they get. It is ironic...but whoever is closer to the water sources wins and people farthur away lose (LA, SD, OC).

I have found this to be quite true. El Centro and especially Brawley are desert towns that are quite green, much more so than San Diego and environs.

[tstieber]

Originally Posted by Chelito23

The ironic part is that the Southern California Deserts would not go dry. The water comes in from the Colorado River, so by separating coastal California (San Diego, OC, LA) from areas to the east...would be shooting themselves in the foot. There is currently a water tranfer agreement for San Diego from Imperial County. The farmers get priority and cheap water as it come through there first. Then San Diego gets left overs. The result is a very green desert wherever it is populated. People have large shade trees, green lawns...while people in the coastal areas have to conserve what little what they get. It is ironic...but whoever is closer to the water sources wins and people farthur away lose (LA, SD, OC).

How come SoCal doesn't build more reservoirs? There are mountainous areas that get snow for runoff, and LA gets more rain that San Jose (granted, SJ is dry too, and we don't get our water from there), but it would seem that especially in those mudslide flood years we see on TV, they could store up to supplement their water supply.

[pistola916]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

I like this idea! What are the District boundaries, and would the District be the District of 3 states?

Perhaps, Sacramento would be a 2nd federal District of the United States?

The District would only cover Sacramento County. Everything east and northeast of Sacramento County would be the foothill or Gold Country state, whatever people want to call it. West of Sacramento (Yolo, Solano, etc would move to Northern California. Vallejo south is considered the Bay Area. Essentially, Sacramento, District of California (DC West) is wrapped around two other states, just like Washington is with Maryland and Virginia. So yes, five states and one district (Sacramento) is my proposal.

[Bunjee]

Originally Posted by tstieber

How come SoCal doesn't build more reservoirs? There are mountainous areas that get snow for runoff, and LA gets more rain that San Jose (granted, SJ is dry too, and we don't get our water from there), but it would seem that especially in those mudslide flood years we see on TV, they could store up to supplement their water supply.

They are building reservoirs. Headworks, one near Griffith Park--there are reservoir projects going on all the time. I think Silver Lake just had a big renovation a few years ago. Riverside has its own reservoirs and imports less than 3% of its municipal water. Orange County has one of the largest water recycling plant in the nation, and per capita water use in Los Angeles has dropped 15% since 1970 (according to the Sacrameto Bee, Feb. 17th). Still, L.A./OC, San Diego, and the Bay Area would suffer greatly being cut off. San Francisco has barely started water recycling.

I imagine a Central Valley state will use the vast bulk of its water as it already has been, for corporate agriculture.

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by pistola916

The District would only cover Sacramento County. Everything east and northeast of Sacramento County would be the foothill or Gold Country state, whatever people want to call it. West of Sacramento (Yolo, Solano, etc would move to Northern California. Vallejo south is considered the Bay Area. Essentially, Sacramento, District of California (DC West) is wrapped around two other states, just like Washington is with Maryland and Virginia. So yes, five states and one district (Sacramento) is my proposal.

I prefer that we would be a true federal district that represents every state west of the Mississippi Rver including the new states of California. Any future supreme court house, and national museums would be built in Sacramento. Future headquarters of various federal depts would be built in and around the new District. We would be the District of Vespucci or the District of America.

[KC6ZLV]

Originally Posted by pistola916

The District would only cover Sacramento County. Everything east and northeast of Sacramento County would be the foothill or Gold Country state, whatever people want to call it. West of Sacramento (Yolo, Solano, etc would move to Northern California. Vallejo south is considered the Bay Area. Essentially, Sacramento, District of California (DC West) is wrapped around two other states, just like Washington is with Maryland and Virginia. So yes, five states and one district (Sacramento) is my proposal.

Why would you carve Sacramento County out of the Gold Country? Both Sacramento City and the County have strong ties to the Gold Country.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

I prefer that we would be a true federal district that represents every state west of the Mississippi Rver including the new states of California. Any future supreme court house, and national museums would be built in Sacramento. Future headquarters of various federal depts would be built in and around the new District. We would be the District of Vespucci or the District of America.

Try convincing those in the Ca. hating states which is all of them that a Fed. District to represent them would be carved out of the heart of Ca.

[pistola916]

Originally Posted by KC6ZLV

Why would you carve Sacramento County out of the Gold Country? Both Sacramento City and the County have strong ties to the Gold Country.

Because the Federal District would be way too big. I'd like to have it similar to DC in size.

Anyway, California is not going to be carved up into different states. The idea is way too far fetched and silly. Carved it up the way you like it, i don't care. I'm having fun with this. Unless, of course, Californians are really serious about this.