Just for fun...when CA. finally taxes you out, where will you go? Why? (San Jose: big house, school)

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by TimC2462

And yet you are still here after announcing to the forum last year you were researching for another state to relocate to?

I'm pretty sure not everything is doom and gloom for you in Orange County. Seriously, a lot of what extremists complain about is from what they hear on the television, radio, and Internet. It's the FREAKING media that puts a spin on everything to elicit emotions and all the rhetoric along with it.

The internet is a tarpit for information. Entirely untrustworthy. A dangerous tool.

And for-profit media is always suspect -- conservative, liberal, whatever ... controversy is their deposit slip. This is why I pick my through my news stories pretty carefully and try to get verification from several sources. Exceptions are NPR / PBS -- while both are targets of conservative vitriol and accusations of liberal bias, anyone with a journalism background knows how very balanced these public venues are in their investigations and reporting.

Other sources -- also often accused of liberal bias -- that do a very good job with investigating reports and claims are the NY Times, L.A. Times, Washington Post -- and (wait for the conservative screams) Rolling Stone Magazine. One needs to understand the difference between a liberal philosophy -- which these papers have -- especially, strongly, Rolling Stone -- and journalistic ethics and responsibility. Rolling Stone, for example, has an agenda to present stories that support a progressive political and social position. Yet, the reporting rigorously conforms to the highest levels of ethical and professional journalism standards. All facts and claims are multi-verified and editorially reviewed and checked for accuracy independent of the writer.

But if you want to escape all possible spin, you have to turn to public media -- in spite of conservative cries of liberal agenda. NPR and PBS actively seek conservative input and response -- and cull out sensationalism from both sides.

[TrueTimbers]

Originally Posted by NewToCA

Grand Rapids isn't too bad a place, I especially like the East Grand Rapids and the Wyoming, Michigan suburban area of Grand Rapids.

If you ever get up to that area, you may want to also take a trip out to take a look at the Holland, Michigan area, about a half hour west of Grand Rapids. It really is a pretty area with a very nice downtown. A very water oriented community with dense woods and great access to Lake Michigan.

Just so you know, Michigan is generally Democrats...Not the California kind, but the old fashioned blue collar union kind..

Pilgrim, yep Green bay would be good for you.. Church, Football and beer. Also with our new governor, you will not have to worry about public education "brainwashing" the children with things like science and history... It is an all out war on public education by your side..... Soon people will not think at all for themselves...But it will be OK they will have Football and beer.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Why indeed, Don!? -- when you can have fine, solid, upstanding, intellectually stimulatin' friends and neighbors like these fellers in the Ozarks

Nothin' quite like an all-white neighborhood of like-minded heterosexuals
(do I hear banjo music? Well, maybe scratch the hetero part then)

Yeah! 'Cept one of them left a relative fer ya in CA.



Don't know quite how to classify these in CA either.



And as for your beach bunnies:



But it's all good. Every state has its characters.

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

The difference in tax burden between CA and the "low tax" states is no more than 4%. On an income of $100,000 a year, that is about $11.00 per day.

You are likely to save more than that on heating and/or cooling costs by staying in California with its benign climate.

In California you would pay about $10,500 total tax burden, in Texas you would pay about $7,500.

Many would consider that $4,000 a reasonable fee for not having to live in Texas.

Well said, it was not taxes that drove me to Arizona but rent. Buying in San Francisco was over my head and $2500 a month for rent was more than I wanted to handle in retirement

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by NewToCA

You are just flat out wrong here.

Many states have significantly lower overall taxes than California, especially when combining income taxes with real estate taxes (especially when looking at equivalent property prices).

The overall taxes is as well as insurence rates are what too few consider. Most everyone just looks at income taxes, not thinking of property taxes, cost of property, sales tax, car registration, etc. You understand this, I do, but many do not.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by nmnita

The overall taxes is as well as insurence rates are what too few consider. Most everyone just looks at income taxes, not thinking of property taxes, cost of property, sales tax, car registration, etc. You understand this, I do, but many do not.

the figures and percents I quoted are total tax burden That is, all that stuff.

[Shooting Stars]

Here's an interesting web site on personal financial security by state.

Assets & Opportunity Scorecard

If you click on a state, it gives a report card and rank number. Click at the bottom of that, and you get all the details for that state.

California ranks #39 for the overall personal financial security of it's citizens.

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by Shooting Stars

Here's an interesting web site on personal financial security by state.

Assets & Opportunity Scorecard

If you click on a state, it gives a report card and rank number. Click at the bottom of that, and you get all the details for that state.

California ranks #39 for the overall personal financial security of it's citizens.

It also has Nevada, Arizona and Florida in the top group, what a laugh

[Shooting Stars]

Originally Posted by Boompa

It also has Nevada, Arizona and Florida in the top group, what a laugh

You are reading the map wrong. They are not the "top" group.

The top rankings are from 1 to 10.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

The Mid Atlantic, the Pac NW, or, possibly, as a more remote (and least likely possibility) the Southern Rockies or Southern High Plains.

General rationale - sweet spots of taxation vs services, health care, climate and general cultural opportunities.