Just for fun...when CA. finally taxes you out, where will you go? Why? (Santa Ana: low crime, house)
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If you click on a state, it gives a report card and rank number. Click at the bottom of that, and you get all the details for that state.
California ranks #39 for the overall personal financial security of it's citizens.
California is well represented here:
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2007 Nest Egg Index-Cities with the most savings
In the third annual Nest Egg Index, we ranked the 500 top-performing communities based on their residents' personal savings and investing behavior. By measuring a dozen statistical factors - including participation in retirement savings plans, personal debt levels and home ownership - the Nest Egg Index shows the geographic regions where people are succeeding and facing difficulty with their nest eggs. In this year's results, communities that ranked highly in the Nest Egg Index continue to benefit from strong local housing markets and show a high propensity toward saving and investing in retirement vehicles such as 401(k) or pension plans. And while these communities had higher costs of living than the national average, nineteen out of the top 20 also had lower debt levels.
1 Los Alamos, NM 2 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA
3 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT
4 Torrington, CT 5 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA
6 Barnstable Town, MA
7 Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington, MN
8 Holland-Grand Haven, MI 9 Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA 10 Edwards, CO
11 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-MD-VA
12 Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA
13 Gardnerville-Ranchos, NV
14 Rochester, MN
15 Red Wing, MN
16 Appleton, WI
17 Faribault-Northfield, MN
18 Trenton-Ewing, NJ
19 Naples-Marco Island, FL
20 Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT 21 Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA 22 Norwich-New London, CT
23 Lexington Park, MD
24 Boulder, CO
25 Juneau, AK
Ditto for me too. Except, I didn't attend one in Fremont. I also have profound hearing loss, but I learned ASL just to communicate with my classmates from kindergarten to 3rd grade at a school for the deaf before returning to my old elementary school. Unfortunately, ASL isn't my first language and I have long forgotten how to communicate in it since 3rd grade.
Now you know another forum poster who is hard of hearing, Nullego.
As for taxes in California -- sure, we may be taxed excessively, but it isn't enough to make me move. You don't run away from the problem by relocating elsewhere.
That really blows, man. At least you are able to communicate the other way around. Some people who are profound deaf are able to communicate just fine without sign language, but I'm not able to do that. It's too difficult for me, pretty much.
Yea, the taxes in California is nothing compared to Massachuetts and other states in my opinion. At least we get the nice weather and tons of activities.
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We did move. I just mever fully left. I still work in CA soemtimes and live in OC when I need to be there for work.
We moved for a lot of reasons. The top reasons were to be closer to family, find a more wholesome moral and social and environmental atmosphere for raising our pack of children, ever increasing taxes, cost of decent housing (we wanted to move to a new location, but did not like our CA options), more laid back/less busyness, and the insanity of the California government (we expected it would be BK by now).
We ended up going to Michigan (near Detroit) primarily because we have the most family members in MIchigan and it is centrally located to several other family members. It has loads of clean water, cleaner air, blue skies with puffy clouds, thunderstorms, and forests of trees and fields and things we bought a big house on a big island and everything (except heat) is less expensive. We sometimes have regrets and miss S. Cal., but overall, we achieved what we were looking for. It is much better for the kids in our opinion. It is also better for my wife who hated the unchanging CA weather and especially Santa Ana winds (asthma). For me? Well, I like being near my extended family, but I miss my skyrocketing career (big setback), my friends, and the abundant sunshine and the mountains. I often have severe regrets about moving from a personal standpoint, but for our family, it was the right thing to do.
Anyway we looked at moving to the following areas outside of California:
Charleston SC (All ready to move until I learned that I would never get work in my business because I am not natvie and have no family name in the area. I got over the fact that no one would sell me a house South of Broad, and found a nice place in Mt. Pleasant, but the no work thing was a killer).
Denver Colorado. (We did not go here because we had no connection to Denver or anything near Denver. It would have bene nice though. As far as we could tell, it has all of the things we wanted except family (plus great skiing).
Lake Dallas Texas (DFW area) We considered this area because we have family in the area and there were plenty of job opportunities for me. However we discovered that it was too much like some parts of what we wanted to escape from.
Boston area. Pretty. We took a quick look, but it was never really pracitcal. Too expensive, to competitive for work. Too crowded. Kind of remote familywise (although my wifes parents are there). Overall, not enough pluses.
Virginia (Richmond, Willamsburg, and a few other cities). Viriginia has some really nice places. We decided that we liked Charleston better and when that did not work out, we just stopped looking at the entire area (SE seaboard). I am not really sure why, it might have been a good location for us as long as we were far enoguh away from D.C. (whcih has all of the down sides of So. Cal. with none of the upsides IMO.
You are Deaf? First other Deaf person I have encountered on cdf . My wife is (born) profoundly deaf (Minnesota) and we are an ASL 1st language home (I have severe hearing loss from military service). Our home base is in the San Juan Islands, but live part time in Calif., and Hawaii as well.
Are you a severe or profound Deaf ASL signer -- or mainstreamed oral-deaf? You wrote previously that you were originally from the Bay area -- did you by chance attend school in Fremont? Looking to return to California to work in what field? It IS a terrific state
I have many deaf friends and they love California. It is an easier climate to live in. A friend told me his poor departed father would have lived many more years if he had left the Chicago area with its icky summers and frigidare winters. Climate is one of the main determinates for a long life. And fiber!
If i may be nosy, how do you lose your hearing due to the military? Wounded? Or those overly loud DIs? Sorry, had to throw that in!
I have many deaf friends and they love California. It is an easier climate to live in. A friend told me his poor departed father would have lived many more years if he had left the Chicago area with its icky summers and frigidare winters. Climate is one of the main determinates for a long life. And fiber!
If i may be nosy, how do you lose your hearing due to the military? Wounded? Or those overly loud DIs? Sorry, had to throw that in!
ha ha ... Yes, fiber is key!
Also ha ha -- no, not DIs
I was an airman in a squadron that engaged in close-air troop support ... search and destroy ... search and rescue ... I worked flight decks and flew crew in props, jets, and helicopters -- all very noisy toys ... took both concussion and direct impact damage on several occasions (crashes) ... the specific cause of my hearing loss is impossible to pinpoint.
I went on to earn my first (B.A.) degree in music regardless -- but, obviously, without ability to perform professionally.
I have many deaf friends and they love California. It is an easier climate to live in. A friend told me his poor departed father would have lived many more years if he had left the Chicago area with its icky summers and frigidare winters. Climate is one of the main determinates for a long life. And fiber!
If i may be nosy, how do you lose your hearing due to the military? Wounded? Or those overly loud DIs? Sorry, had to throw that in!
Me too. I got plenty of friends and acquaintances in California as well. Most of them are deaf and a handful are hearing counterparts. At least, I won't freeze my hands off signing in -5 degrees. It kinda can be hard to understand signing with thick ski gloves.
Me too. I got plenty of friends and acquaintances in California as well. Most of them are deaf and a handful are hearing counterparts. At least, I won't freeze my hands off signing in -5 degrees. It kinda can be hard to understand signing with thick ski gloves.
True -- although easier in ski-gloves than in mittens
Well, quiet as it's kept, communicating as a hearing person in that weather isn't comfortable either: ear muffs and hat flaps down, scarf / ski-mobile mask over face, teeth-chattering, lips blue and immobilized by the cold ... etc.
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. My wife is (born) profoundly deaf (Minnesota) and we are an ASL 1st language home (I have severe hearing loss from military service). Our home base is in the San Juan Islands, but live part time in Calif., and Hawaii as well. 
