03-05-2012, 08:47 PM
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I gotta say it:
this thread is a hoot
One can always count on vegetables to get the job done.
How much fun are veggies?!
Right? I thought we were talking about veggies, but about 20 pages of posts ago, I realized that's not what the topic was at all. I wonder where I ever got that crazy veggie idea from?
(It was probably my stomach clouding my reading.
)
And I wonder why 20 pages of off-topic posts isn't considered fighting, but just a couple of flustered posts by an OP on another thread is. Ah, what do I know?
Off to the Dogs board I go!
Have fun, and be nice to each other.
03-05-2012, 08:48 PM
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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Raw, steamed and buttered, pureed into soup ... it's all good, man ...
Yummy!
03-05-2012, 08:48 PM
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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I will toss in one thought... I do not see "suffering" in the physical sense of pain or death...... I see "suffering" as a mental state... an awareness if you will a construct of the mind.
anyway
later.. taters...
03-05-2012, 08:51 PM
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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I will toss in one thought... I do not see "suffering" in the physical sense of pain or death...... I see "suffering" as a mental state... an awareness if you will a construct of the mind.
anyway
later.. taters...
Yes same here...that is exactly how I see suffering it is all mental indeed
Later Tater
03-05-2012, 08:59 PM
Location: Declezville, CA
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I'm not sure that I have ever gone more than one day in a row without eating copious amounts of the stuff. If you ever need a place to dump your surplus, I'm your man. Raw, steamed and buttered, pureed into soup ... it's all good, man ...
03-05-2012, 09:25 PM
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Right? I thought we were talking about veggies, but about 20 pages of posts ago, I realized that's not what the topic was at all. I wonder where I ever got that crazy veggie idea from?
(It was probably my stomach clouding my reading.
)
And I wonder why 20 pages of off-topic posts isn't considered fighting, but just a couple of flustered posts by an OP on another thread is. Ah, what do I know?
Off to the Dogs board I go!
Have fun, and be nice to each other.
It's a wonderful, free flowing, good spirited, organically evolving thread where vegies come and go and where, after being forewarned by NewToCA, there has been very little negativity and a lot of positive and interesting (to me anyway) exchanges.
Even user-id is being a relatively good boy.
And yet you complain and do something akin to tattling by stating that what may be considered "off topic" is fighting?
What's up with that?
And how long can one stay rigidly "on-topic" and discuss Esalen and their garden?
And many of the posts that may be considered "off topic" are an extension of and are certainly related to the spirit of the Esalen Institute.
Imo, it's nice to have one thread on the California forum that is very open and where tangents are not frowned upon but rather create an interesting stream of thought and expression.
03-05-2012, 09:29 PM
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I will toss in one thought... I do not see "suffering" in the physical sense of pain or death...... I see "suffering" as a mental state... an awareness if you will a construct of the mind.
anyway
later.. taters...
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TVC15
Yes same here...that is exactly how I see suffering it is all mental indeed
Later Tater
Yep. That's what I'm talkin' 'bout. Attitude adjustment goes a long way. There's real physical suffering too. And there's bona fide mental/emotional suffering. But most of it is expectations-based -- as can be adjusted on the fly.
03-05-2012, 09:41 PM
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How about with sprinkles, Fontucky?
03-05-2012, 09:44 PM
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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oh gag! that's revolting.
03-05-2012, 09:47 PM
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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People who have their minds made up and are entrenched in their attitudes and perceptions are impossible to reach and it's impossible to have any kind fruitful dialogue with them.
I agree, that is why I don't debate matters with those with religiously held beliefs. There needs to be an agreed methodology, a methodology that can determine what is correct and what isn't, without such a methodology dialogue is just hot-air.
And yes, the views you are stating are religious in nature.
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You have some attitudes and ideas that are rather cliche at best...
Awesome, but I believe things because the evidence suggests they are true...whether they are "cliche" to some particular person is immaterial.
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jaijai
be more humble and try to open your mind (if only just a bit) so that you might evolve ....
I love this sort of thing....while you yap about me being arrogant what you're basically saying is that you're right about everything and people that disagree need to "evolve" and become more like you....that is because you believe that you are super special....an "old soul" no doubt.
Anyhow, would you like to rant some more about me?
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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