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[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

How curious, so the White Mountains, Bishop, Walker, Truckee, Markleeville, Loyalton, Susanville, Cedarville look to you like a moonscape? One man's moonscape is another man's paradise. All of those have great trout streams in or near them. That is a good thing.

For the lands south, Death Valley, Panamint Valley, the East Mojave clear to the Mexican border is dramatically beautiful, for those who do not think beautiful must be full of plants.



Isn't is nice to know that 45.3% of the state is empty land for you to recreate in? Much of those lands have areas of private land. I lived for many years with publicland on my east property line, I could leave my home and ride for hundreds of miles and never leave public land. I find that a great thing.

The map plainly shows that California is not over crowded, but, fairly empty. And that is a good thing.

visit yes, live no. 120 degrees is off my scale I love mts, moonscape not so much.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

visit yes, live no. 120 degrees is off my scale I love mts, moonscape not so much.

The point I was attempting to make is that from the White mountains 14,252 ft in elevation, north for 3-400 miles it is not moonscape, it is a grand scenic landscape including of course, Lake Tahoe, and my favorite California town, Cedarville. Calling the desert a moonscape is interesting. I hope there are many who make that mistake, leaves that grand beautiful country to folk who can appreciate it.

There is a valley out there, rimmed with mountains that rise up to 10,000 feet above it, in the middle of this immense valley is a hot spring. There is nothing much to do there, except soak in the hot water and admire the view. A nice place, hours down a bad dirt road.

120 degrees may occur 2-3 months of the year.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

I'm where the light meets the dark.

15 minutes on foot and I am well into the dark.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

The point I was attempting to make is that from the White mountains 14,252 ft in elevation, north for 3-400 miles it is not moonscape, it is a grand scenic landscape including of course, Lake Tahoe, and my favorite California town, Cedarville. Calling the desert a moonscape is interesting. I hope there are many who make that mistake, leaves that grand beautiful country to folk who can appreciate it.

There is a valley out there, rimmed with mountains that rise up to 10,000 feet above it, in the middle of this immense valley is a hot spring. There is nothing much to do there, except soak in the hot water and admire the view. A nice place, hours down a bad dirt road.

120 degrees may occur 2-3 months of the year.

All I can say is, plenty of places in that supposed moonscape to steal away in the middle of the afternoon with a coed field partner and ...

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

Mine's mostly in the panhandle or near it

There is something to be said for living in the largest, and arguably most varied county (all it lacks is the coastal aspect).

Here's but one example, scrambling up San Gorgonio and seeing about 1/3 of the state (not to mention even parts of other states / another nation!).

[Glenview94602]

Some of the most beautiful coast is parkland...look at the darkness between Carmel (Monterey Co) and SLO. Look at the North Coast....pretty much darkness everywhere but heavenly. Trinity & Alpine are two mountainous counties in two different ranges (Trinity Alps/Klamath Mountains and the Sierra respectively) that are very few in population but many in charm. Did you know that Alpine County is so rural and small in population that it only has 3 or 4 sessions a year of jury duty (less if you live in certain areas that have high snowfall). The downside of that is you are pretty much a lock to serve every year.

I love the Yolo County fields once you get outside of the population centers in West Sac, Davis, Woodland, and parts of Winters. So beautiful, I know several great spots to stargaze over there....

[JustPassinThru]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

...For the lands south, Death Valley, Panamint Valley, the East Mojave clear to the Mexican border is dramatically beautiful, for those who do not think beautiful must be full of plants....

I frequently hike in Panamint Valley because I am always alone, notwithstanding the jets from China Lake which are performing their low altitude maneuvers. When they catch you by surprise, which is always, it can make your hair stand up. I used to think that they went out of their way to buzz me, until I realized that I was always on a particular dry lake when it happened.

At the north end of the valley you can be in Death Valley National Park, which is important to know if you're prospecting or hunting for meteorites. One day the temp reached 124, and that kind of heat guarantees that you can have the area to yourself.

There is beauty to enjoy and appreciate throughout California, from the mountains to the sea. (Thank you, Jerry Dunphy.)

[.highnlite]

Photo from the top of the Grapevine at the junction with Hunter mtn road I reckon. The snow peak in the distance has a great skiable bowl on the north side.

[user_id]

On average, one isn't able to "make a living" in the hillbilly areas...so their existence doesn't matter much to the average working adult.