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[DMenscha]

Originally Posted by user_id

On average, one isn't able to "make a living" in the hillbilly areas...so their existence doesn't matter much to the average working adult.

This is terrible news to the majority of us that do. We really don't care about the average working adult either>

[user_id]

Originally Posted by DMenscha

This is terrible news to the majority of us that do. We really don't care about the average working adult either>

I'm not sure what you're trying to claim, the vast majority of working adults live in urbanized areas.

You don't care about the average working adult? Okay......but he is the one subsidizing your lifestyle choice. Rural communities, since industrialization, have been subsidized by those evil urban workers. Ironically, the justification for the subsidies is future development. That is, nobody would move to an area without modern utilities yet those utilities only become cost effective with sufficient numbers....

Anyhow, though these areas may be nice, the vast majority can't pick up and live in them and that is precisely why they remain rural today. These areas can be a real gem for retirees though.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by user_id

On average, one isn't able to "make a living" in the hillbilly areas...so their existence doesn't matter much to the average working adult.

That is a bunch of baloney, once again user, you show us the depth of your ignorance of the world you live in. It is rather easy to make a living in the hillbilly areas.

And, public lands matter much to the average working adult. Millions upon millions of average working adults spend time in America's public lands.

I think though, really, you don't believe what you post, you just post oppositional crap, because your life ain't all that terrific.

No one who is happy and content feel the need to tear down anyone elses ideas or actions.

So, your posts tell us a lot about you.

[nullgeo]

The rural folks are subsidized by the urban folks -- which urban folks rely on the agriculture, timber, mining, energy, and more -- all provided by *trumpets* the RURAL folks.

But nevermind that. We're just here to argue by using ridicule.

After 9,000 post over years here, one certain poster has yet to actually explain why he stoops to engage in dialogue with other C D posters when he treats every one of them as if an inferior being and inferior intellect. The only explanation is to derive pleasure from the act of ridicule. A nasty neurosis.

[.highnlite]

It is called getting ahead by stepping on heads. People who do this are people of low self esteem. They build themselves up by tearing others down.

Happy, content, satisfied humans don't do that.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

That is a bunch of baloney, once again user, you show us the depth of your ignorance of the world you live in. It is rather easy to make a living in the hillbilly areas.

Rather than focus on calling people names, you should perhaps read what they are saying. I never suggested that you can't make a living in the "hillbilly areas", instead I suggested that the vast majority of working adults can't do such a thing. Indeed, the minute these areas can support that sort of job growth is the minute they are no longer rural in character!

People follow jobs....

Originally Posted by .highnlite

And, public lands matter much to the average working adult. Millions upon millions of average working adults spend time in America's public lands.

I never suggested that "public lands don't matter", but its primarily the middle-class (and above) folks that are able to enjoy these assets. The urban working-class? Not so much.... But that's a statement of today's economic situation more than anything.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

The rural folks are subsidized by the urban folks -- which urban folks rely on the agriculture, timber, mining, energy, and more -- all provided by *trumpets* the RURAL folks.

Sure and no where in my post did I suggest that the subsidies shouldn't exist, instead I just noted their existence to point out the fact that in today's world, contrary to popular belief among some rural folks, society is highly connected and everyone depends on either other for their current standard of living.

I was responding to a comment, from another poster, that they don't care about the "average worker". Focus on what is being said, not on personal commentary.

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by user_id

Sure and no where in my post did I suggest that the subsidies shouldn't exist, instead I just noted their existence to point out the fact that in today's world, contrary to popular belief among some rural folks, society is highly connected and everyone depends on either other for their current standard of living.

I was responding to a comment, from another poster, that they don't care about the "average worker". Focus on what is being said, not on personal commentary.

No. Your entire reason for posting here was to engage in persistent ridicule to assuage your inferiority complex, as always. You don't give a damn about the topic or other peoples' opinions except as an opportunity to engage in your insecure snobbery in attempt to convince yourself you have substance.

You don't.

Focus on your own shortcomings, not on attempting to build your ego through a campaign of ridicule (that has lasted 9,000 + posts).

[JustPassinThru]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Photo from the top of the Grapevine at the junction with Hunter mtn road I reckon. The snow peak in the distance has a great skiable bowl on the north side.

I apologize for not identifying the photo. Yes, the shot is from the South Pass, but looking south, with Telescope Peak in the background.

Here is another view, taken from Death Valley National Park on the 190, looking southeast across the valley.


Posted by user_id

On average, one isn't able to "make a living" in the hillbilly areas...so their existence doesn't matter much to the average working adult.

Huh?

Posted by user_id

I never suggested that "public lands don't matter", but its primarily the middle-class (and above) folks that are able to enjoy these assets. The urban working-class? Not so much....

I think you have it backwards. The urban worker with fewer discretionary dollars can always enjoy what nature has to offer at minimal cost.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by JustPassinThru

I apologize for not identifying the photo. Yes, the shot is from the South Pass, but looking south, with Telescope Peak in the background.

Yep, Telescope peak has a great snow bowl on the north west slope.

Here is another view, taken from Death Valley National Park on the 190, looking southeast across the valley.

PSR A great place for a burger and a beer. For the past 40 years I have spent time in and around DV, wandering up canyons.


Posted by user_id


Huh?

Posted by user_id


I think you have it backwards. The urban worker with fewer discretionary dollars can always enjoy what nature has to offer at minimal cost.

Not worth getting into an argument with user, he actually holds no opinions, he just likes to tear other people down. Comes from living in Mordor, I suppose. He has stated he is Risk Adverse, we are not likely to see him out on our public lands, mtn biking, dirt biking, hiking from spring to spring with the hope there is water there, or or peak bagging or jeeping, or other outdoor men and women stuff.