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Old 04-25-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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Actually, that's much less the case now than in the past(you know, when the unemployment rate here was lower):

For first time since Depression, more Mexicans leave U.S. than enter - The Washington Post

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Old 04-25-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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It amazes me to no end how a state with the world's 5th largest economy has been screwed over by this administration. Think about it, he has bailed out other states like Ohio, and Illinois which once had much higher unemployment rates, at the expense of this state. Now this state has a higher unemployment rate than Ohio and other similar states that Obama bailed out.

Why the heck is he in the running here, let alone being in the lead?

There is no reason at all why a first class state like California should ever have a higher unemployment rate than a state like Ohio...Come on!!! Also. why isn't Jerry Brown being recalled? As I recall(pun intended) Gray Davis was recalled for a much milder recession which was blamed on him.
Answer...Liberalism is a mental disorder...that only cares about "feelings" not hard cold facts.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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A couple of things:

1. Pennsylvania was never a major player in the automotive industry regardless of its industrial past. Most of what was manufactured in Pennsylvania was advanced materials -- steel, aluminum, glass, chemicals, etc. Were those used by the automotive industry? Yes, but they were also used by many other manufacturing sectors as well. In terms of finished products like cars and the parts therein, that was the specialty of Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, primarily. New York was in the same boat as Pennsylvania, specializing in advanced materials. That's why both states lost all their industry first and most thoroughly, and why their economies were inert during the 1990's.

2. Just because something has never happened before in your life doesn't necessarily mean that it cannot or should not, ever happen. Quite frankly, the mentality of your post is exactly the mentality that states like Pennsylvania had back in the 1970's that resulted in economic collapse a generation ago. Lessons were learned the hard way during the 1970's and 1980's. Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before the fall. As a state, California has a very high opinion of itself, and if it's not careful, then it, too, might collapse economically. Nothing lasts forever, whether it be good times in California or bad times in Pennsylvania.

The bottom line is

a). CA is the world's 5th largest economy, something PA, Ohio, and Michigan, combined could never be unless(maybe) if you threw New York in the mix too.

b). CA is not the one dimensional economy that PA was before the steel industry collapse, so that's an apples to oranges comparison

c). CA is a world class state and always will be. PA will never have the same level of desirability. Pittsburgh might be the current flavor of the month but trust me, that will prove to be fleeting.

As I've said in previous posts, I don't buy into the notion that the current economic situation is Obama's fault but it's hard to disagree with the fact that he's taking this state for granted. I am not rooting for Obama being defeated but I would love to see a much tighter race for this states 50 plus electoral votes. The only way he's going to pay attention to this area is if he actually has to work for this state's nod instead of assuming he has it in the bag.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:36 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Answer...Liberalism is a mental disorder...that only cares about "feelings" not hard cold facts.
Actually, that is not true. It is easily demonstrated that Conservatives prefer belief to fact, something I remark upon regularly. We can start with Obama being a foreign muslim, or lower taxes help the economy, or Sarah Palin has a brain.

And of course that brings me to my oft asked and never answered question.

What have Conservatives ever done for America?

In truth, they have opposed everything good in America starting with our revolution against Britain and our Federal Constitution
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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Basically, he's been redistributing the high unemployment from the rust belt (where it belongs) to states like here...
HUH?

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Why you're not ashamed or embarrassed to have a higher unemployment rate than states like Ohio is beyond me
Do you live in Europe or the United States?
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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HUH?
The world's 5th largest economy should be doing better than a rust belt type unemployment rate..What's not to understand about that???



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Do you live in Europe or the United States?
Huh?
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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You ask "why is Obama ahead in California".

The answer: just look at the guys running against him.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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Answer...Liberalism is a mental disorder...that only cares about "feelings" not hard cold facts.
Here's 1 liberal fact for ya====Healthy workers are more productive than sick ones. So why dont conservatives think health care is a good investment? Afterall, aint y'all pro jobs?????
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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He might not be to blame for the high unemployment happening in the first place but he is to blame for the blattant neglect of this state while he's been bailing out others in the mid-west, via the auto bailouts and the manufacturing sector. He has don'e nothing for the more important coastal region states like this one. Seriously- you think it's fine that this state has a higher unemployment rate than the likes of Ohio, Illinios, Michigan, or Pennsylvania??? That has never happened before in my lifetime. This is a first class state for pete's sake!!!

*disclaimer* I'm not a Republican or Romney supporter and I sure as heck don't listen to Hannity or Rush.
After reading this again I realized YOU STILL HAVENT ANSWERED MY QUESTION!!! What do think Obama can do? Other than pretend the rust belt doesnt exist??? Yea! I thought so. Just more hot air.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Granville, OH
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Ohioian here and a little taken aback by the shock, shock that Ohio could have a lower unemployment rate. You are wildly misinformed. Might I direct you to North Dakota where the unemployment rate is 3% and starting wage at McDonalds is $18 an hour. People pouring into ND to fill open jobs. Why is that and why is Ohio's rate dropping? It's called exploiting the resources through Hydraulic Fracturing of the Utica and Marcellus shale formations that also exist under much of PA and WV. Morgantown, WV is a boom town because of "fracking". Natural gas is now around $2 per BTU while in Japan, Europe, Australia, etc.. are paying $15-18! Look at US steel companies and how they are benefiting through manufacturing of tubular products for fracking. Entire sectors that left the US are coming back to take advantage of low energy cost such as chemical facilities and fertilizer manufacturing. Just because CA chooses to largely ignore the enormous resources on which it is sitting does not mean the rest of us should too. Ohio's jobless rate is dropping rapidly and will continue to do so, what about CA's?
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