Why do Southern Californians move to Vegas/Phoenix for affordability? Why not just the IE? (Riverside: crime, how much)

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

7 months? C'mon. Its so dry in Phoenix that when its in the 90s and even low 100s, its quite comfortable. I'd say its dreadful for 3-4 months of the year. However, winters are much nicer in Phoenix (much drier) and I'll take the heat over the terrible air quality and poor quality of life in general. I just don't think that the IE has the amount of nice areas that you get in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area.

Perhaps YOU don't sweat when it's 90 degrees and dry but that temperature is enough to render some inactive.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

It is so dry in Phoenix, you rarely sweat much, even when it is 110 degrees outside! I personally love the heat (in moderation). Since I moved to the Bay Area, I find myself taking more tropical vacations.

I'm sure that the IE was once a beautiful place, before it was developed. I've seen pictures of Riverside in the 40s-50s, with all the orange orchards and I would've liked living there back then. However, the area was turned into an absolute dump, in my opinion. I happen to think that Phoenix is a lot nicer than that part of the LA metro area, despite the brutally hot summers.

That's not weather. That's a serious emergency!

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Perhaps YOU don't sweat when it's 90 degrees and dry but that temperature is enough to render some inactive.

You get used to it after a couple months. When I moved to AZ, I came from coastal California, never living more than 25 miles inland. It was tough at first, but you get used to it. Even now, when we have heatwaves here in the Bay Area and it gets up to 100 degrees, I wonder what everyone is freaking out about.

[blauskies]

Originally Posted by Leonard64

Yep, grew up in OC, lived the last few years in IE and moved in 2009 to TN. Smartest thing I ever did as to where to live.

Yes no beach, but living in the IE I still rarely went due to traffic, limited parking, etc. Once a great place to be is now not hardly worth the effort. I have mountains, rivers, lakes, green year round and I can drive to a warm ocean in 8 hours if I want beach time; or the gulf if I want no surf. Oh no parking problems either.

Yeah Kudzu is nice and green in the summer there, can't say I ever got use to the pine straw and high pollen count though. During the winter the only thing that is green is the pine trees, all that dormant brown grass overpowers much of it though.

8 hours to the beach? Not a day trip by any means.

[blauskies]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

You get used to it after a couple months. When I moved to AZ, I came from coastal California, never living more than 25 miles inland. It was tough at first, but you get used to it. Even now, when we have heatwaves here in the Bay Area and it gets up to 100 degrees, I wonder what everyone is freaking out about.

I don't know if I could adjust to the dryness there compared to Miami where it's currently 75F with 73% humidity. I never felt anything unbearable here and while people complain I don't mind it. I never had to adjust to the climate coming from other states on the east coast.

People tell me that nosebleeds are common and you got to use plenty of skin lotion.

[leonard]

Originally Posted by blauskies

Yeah Kudzu is nice and green in the summer there, can't say I ever got use to the pine straw and high pollen count though. During the winter the only thing that is green is the pine trees, all that dormant brown grass overpowers much of it though.

8 hours to the beach? Not a day trip by any means.

Yep the Kudzu is neat. On the other hand the Smokies have more varieties of trees than all of Europe. In my area the grass is only brown along the road, though the yard does not require mowing at all, during winter. CA on the other hand is brown most of the year, except for well watered yards and eucalyptus.

Yep 8 hours to the beach is about right from most areas in TN. East TN is to NC or SC and middle or West is to the Gulf.

Ca is one of the most Beautiful States with great weather. BUT it is too crowded in the OC, SD, LA area and is way too expensive for what is no longer that enjoyable a life style. I would agree that for those coming from another State it is still great, but not for those of us who were born and raised there. Most of us have left. In fact aside from illegal migration more people leave than enter now. Too late though.

[Fontucky]

One doesn't need to go to the beach when living in the IE because the beach comes to them in the form of nights that significantly cool off (South of the mountains, that is).

[=Lavender=]

a lot of californians move to N. Nevada ....... I have asked a few and they say its much cheaper and better quality of life.

[blauskies]

Originally Posted by leonard

Yep the Kudzu is neat. On the other hand the Smokies have more varieties of trees than all of Europe. In my area the grass is only brown along the road, though the yard does not require mowing at all, during winter. CA on the other hand is brown most of the year, except for well watered yards and eucalyptus.

Yep 8 hours to the beach is about right from most areas in TN. East TN is to NC or SC and middle or West is to the Gulf.

Ca is one of the most Beautiful States with great weather. BUT it is too crowded in the OC, SD, LA area and is way too expensive for what is no longer that enjoyable a life style. I would agree that for those coming from another State it is still great, but not for those of us who were born and raised there. Most of us have left. In fact aside from illegal migration more people leave than enter now. Too late though.

I lived in Atlanta once upon a time, the Kudzu there was brutal in some parts. I been through and in TN several times when I lived up there, could move back in a heartbeat for all the job opportunities I get there but I want to try my luck in CA while I still can. Anyways all those trees are nice to look at but will wreck havoc on many including myself, even on loads of antihistamines, a few times my car was covered in a yellowish haze of pollen. Southern Pine is did a number on me. That's a big change, glad your enjoying it though!

[robertpolyglot]

I agree. Moving to the IE, or less expensive parts of the Coachella Valley, would trump living in LV or Phoenix. And LA remains 2 or less hours away.