Fresno???

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Originally Posted by nasanerd

I would choose Modesto over Fresno for a larger city in the Valley. If you want something smaller, a little less hot, fewer tweakers, better air quality and with pretty scenery, try Oakhurst or Sonora. Turlock is a nice town too, just 15-20 miles south of Modesto, pop about 50,000 with a Cal State branch.

Definitely NOT Bakersfield.

Go farther north for better air quality.

If you're really stuck on SoCal, try Orange County or farther south near San Diego (if you can afford it.)

what the hell? modesto??????? if you're going to pick anywhere in this valley, its either fresno or visalia and even just between those two, you'd have to pick fresno since its an equal distance to SF & LA and its a much bigger and better city than modesto or visalia.