Stockton Today - California Tomorrow? (employment, legal, agriculture)

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by ZhugeLiang

I guess if you keep repeating it, then it becomes true.

The Washington "solutions" to fixing the economy that had been going on since Bush with TARP and accelerated by Obama have been pretty much textbook Keynes. I realize that you can't acknowledge this fact regarding Obama's term because doing so would essentially destroy your premise, so I can see why you're in full denial mode.

When you cling to partisanship, silly posts and bizarre logic like yours are the end result.

As I have pointed out repeatedly:
I'm sure that the world's leading economists will be at TinyLiang's door any moment begging for an audience with the Master to lead them out of the wilderness of their ignorance

[BlackShoe]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

That is not true. Period. Where do you get this stuff?

From history. You have heard of history, have you not? Not Marxist revisionist history, which the left slavishly accepts as truth, but events as they actually happened.

Hell, I am anti-capitalism, personally. (Which is NOT the same as being either communist or socialist --

Yes it is.

[.highnlite]

From history. You have heard of history, have you not? Not Marxist revisionist history, which the left slavishly accepts as truth, but events as they actually happened.

So if you agree with it, it is actually event, but if you don't it is Marxism, eh? Much like, it ain't socialist if I like it, but it is socialist if I don't.

Quote:
Hell, I am anti-capitalism, personally. (Which is NOT the same as being either communist or socialist --
Yes it is.

Not real well versed in history are you. Capitalism, like Communism or Socialism is a recent addition to the world's economies. Civilization has existed most of its lifetime without Capitalism. Let me leave you with some homework: Mercantilism.

(you know, you should quit while you are behind)

[3Jie]

Stop giving money to illegals from Mexico. Problem solved. Stop hiring the stupid wetbacks in Stockton. Throw their ass back to Mexico where they belong.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by 3Jie

Stop giving money to illegals from Mexico. Problem solved. Stop hiring the stupid wetbacks in Stockton. Throw their ass back to Mexico where they belong.

Agriculture in California is a direct $40 billion dollar a year business, with a ripple effect of up to $600 Billion dollars (new trucks, house payments, rent etc)

80% of the Agricultural workers in CA are illegals.

Can you come up with a solution that does not destroy the economy of the state?

[TrueTimbers]

We only here about what is wrong from the conservatives...

I would like to here some solutions.. So we removed all the cheap labor force from California fields... Now what pay 5x more for our produce, so competitive wages can be offered? No wait.... I have an idea, we should let the multi national,corporations take over, then they can start growing even more of our food in other counties...

Please some conservative offer up a working solution..

[BlackShoe]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Can you come up with a solution that does not destroy the economy of the state?

A regulated guest worker or so called Bracero program. It worked fairly well during WW II and shortly thereafter. Set it up to insure that the workers are not exploited or face fear of arrest or deportation. Screen the workers beforehand to eliminate criminals. Stipulate that the workers must return home when their work is complete and must not take employment in a job other than agriculture. Legal works better than illegal.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

A regulated guest worker or so called Bracero program. It worked fairly well during WW II and shortly thereafter. Set it up to insure that the workers are not exploited or face fear of arrest or deportation. Screen the workers beforehand to eliminate criminals. Stipulate that the workers must return home when their work is complete and must not take employment in a job other than agriculture. Legal works better than illegal.

This sounds like a good idea to me.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

A regulated guest worker or so called Bracero program. It worked fairly well during WW II and shortly thereafter. Set it up to insure that the workers are not exploited or face fear of arrest or deportation. Screen the workers beforehand to eliminate criminals. Stipulate that the workers must return home when their work is complete and must not take employment in a job other than agriculture. Legal works better than illegal.

Actually it worked for 19 years thereafter. It was the end of the Bracero program that forced all the good patriotic American Republican growers to build camps in the canyons and encourage illegals to come across and work the fields, paid, fed and housed by the good patriotic Republican growers.

Today the workers are paid enough that they don't need to live in the camps, the camps are gone.

Now, have you heard any politician talk about a guest worker program for today?

And what do you propose to do with the 12 million or so illegals currently in the country? America is not going to deport 12 million humans, we don't have enough cattle cars.

[Curmudgeon]

Who needs cattle cars when you may end up with the TRUST Act? Makes an American proud!

California bill could create sanctuary state for non-felon illegal immigrants | Fox News

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