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Old 07-04-2012, 09:16 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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There are posts on this forum that reference the mythical State of Jefferson, as the Kingdom of the Conservative, a part of California separate from the liberal, welfare, illegal swamped, state of "Kalifornia" A great map here, shows that the "State of Jefferson" is one of the leading areas in the nation for government handouts, a veritable Welfare State.

The Counties of
Tehama, Yuba, Trinity, Siskiyou, Del Norte, receive around 30% of their income from Federal benefits

The Counties of Humboldt, Mendocino, Lake, Glenn, Butte, Nevada, Plumas, Shasta, Lassen and Modoc, receive around 21 to 30 % of their income from Federal Benefits.

In the rest of CA, one can see that "Red" counties receive substantial amounts of their counties income from Federal Benefits.

So the State of Jeffersonians are essentially, Kings and Queens of Welfare with their hands out for Federal handouts

The classic liberal counties along the coast from SF south, receive a far smaller percent of their income from Federal handouts
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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Other than growing MJ and trees, what econ base does this vaunted bastion of conservative values offer?
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Hills & Hollers of the Aux Arcs
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Maybe they're Klingons!
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Maybe they're Klingons!
Yep, they klingon to every government handout they can find!!

Course Stone County Mo 28%, Marion County 36% and Ozark County 40%,, I like them independent conservatives!
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Yep, they klingon to every government handout they can find!!

Course Stone County Mo 28%, Marion County 36% and Ozark County 40%,, I like them independent conservatives!
Jes keep yo gubment hands off ma Medicayuh!

There's really nothing hypocritical about this once you understand that the right wingers' are only opposed to giving money to minorities. Not many of those in Jeffersonland so let the tax dollars flow.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:43 AM
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Other than growing MJ and trees, what econ base does this vaunted bastion of conservative values offer?
Fishing and Hunting. I know I have contributed plenty to the base over the last 30+ years.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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There are posts on this forum that reference the mythical State of Jefferson, as the Kingdom of the Conservative, a part of California separate from the liberal, welfare, illegal swamped, state of "Kalifornia"
A few political, demographic, and geographic points have not been mentioned. Jefferson is not in any way a so called conservative kingdom, it is as much libertarian as conservative, and the two factions often disagree on issues. However, both are united in their dislike of liberalism and the ever growing power of government control in their lives.

Many parts of Jefferson have attracted large numbers of retirees that do of course, receive Social Security and Medicare. Virtually every large city in the USA has a lower percentage of government support than do the small town and rural areas of it's state, this is just plain economics because industry, high tech, and the professions are centered in the high income cities. This holds true for both Red and Blue States. Boise and Salt Lake City are lightly shaded areas just as SF and LA are. Click on the income support and unemployment insurance box in the map link and watch how the colors shift much more to the southern two thirds of the state.

The proposed State of Jefferson is not just California, it also covers a large part of southern Oregon. This area is also popular with retirees, and has been hard hit economically, with many placing the blame partly on the politicians in Salem.
About | State of Jefferson Podcast
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Hills & Hollers of the Aux Arcs
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Yep, they klingon to every government handout they can find!!

Course Stone County Mo 28%, Marion County 36% and Ozark County 40%,, I like them independent conservatives!
Yeah, I know. Shameful, ain't it? Kinda like CA having about 13% of the population yet about 32% of its welfare recipients. Shameful I tell you!

Couldn't help yourself, could ya? Self-control's a terrible thing to waste! Wonder if there's treatment for it like there is for anger management.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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A few political, demographic, and geographic points have not been mentioned. Jefferson is not in any way a so called conservative kingdom, it is as much libertarian as conservative, and the two factions often disagree on issues. However, both are united in their dislike of liberalism and the ever growing power of government control in their lives.

Many parts of Jefferson have attracted large numbers of retirees that do of course, receive Social Security and Medicare. Virtually every large city in the USA has a lower percentage of government support than do the small town and rural areas of it's state, this is just plain economics because industry, high tech, and the professions are centered in the high income cities. This holds true for both Red and Blue States. Boise and Salt Lake City are lightly shaded areas just as SF and LA are. Click on the income support and unemployment insurance box in the map link and watch how the colors shift much more to the southern two thirds of the state.

The proposed State of Jefferson is not just California, it also covers a large part of southern Oregon. This area is also popular with retirees, and has been hard hit economically, with many placing the blame partly on the politicians in Salem.
About | State of Jefferson Podcast
Of course the point is: the "libertarian" and conservative people of the State of Jefferson, who rant and rail against "socialist nanny government" policies and handouts, themselves live off of socialist government handout support ...

as you were ...
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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Yep, they klingon to every government handout they can find!!

Course Stone County Mo 28%, Marion County 36% and Ozark County 40%,, I like them independent conservatives!
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Yeah, I know. Shameful, ain't it? Kinda like CA having about 13% of the population yet about 32% of its welfare recipients. Shameful I tell you!

Couldn't help yourself, could ya? Self-control's a terrible thing to waste! Wonder if there's treatment for it like there is for anger management.
Boys, don't ruin our lunch date before we even sit down with knives and forks at our disposal ...
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